I am really confused here, why do supposed 'liberals' hate about dreams? Why are so many of you so whiny about the 'American Dream?' It is the strangest thing. It is important to be tolerant of every damn thing, but somehow something amorphous, something that changes regularly, something with no set...

georgio5 wrote:This whole topic motivated me t o sign up to this board,.. just to vote on this poll.

How can we change the theme?

The theme rocks. Go ahead and return to your apathy

Toolmaker wrote:

Rich wrote:Every time you mock a Larry Harvey Theme (tm), or mock the American Dream, god kills a kitten.

I thought god only killed kittens when we masturbate.

I believe in a more activist god.

Every time you mock a Larry Harvey Theme (tm), or mock the American Dream, god kills a kitten.

I believe that the US is the only nation whose cultural identity, whose very sense of self, is based on the process of creating dreams and myths. Maybe you should look up the Aboriginal dreamtime. The cultural identity of the Aborigines is certainly based on dreams, but it is not based on the proce...

Truth be told, as a non-American, this theme does deter me from attending next year. It is not that I am anti-American, or have a problem with the "original" notion of the American Dream, but rather that the modern notion of the American Dream... I believe that the US is the only nation whose cultu...

Hi Godzero, As a European, partly raised in Africa and now living in the USA, I tend to see things a little differently than a lot of Americans. I find most (not just American) patriotic or nationalist themes/feelings/agenda, however well intended, unhelpful when trying to live on this planet. The k...

godzero: what is inappropriate about this theme? I don't think you've made an argument in support of your statement...

America is defined by our dreams and by our myths. Not by the specific dreams or myths that we carry, but at a meta level by the ability to have a dream and to then act on that dream. America is the only country in the world whose cultural identity comes from a dynamic and iterative process of dream...

This is an awesome theme! The first measure of the quality of a theme, at least to me, is in the opposition to that theme. Most of the responses I've seen have been 'agin it.' And the arguments have been singularly, well, they don't seem that strong to me. I mean, "The American Dream is a baggaged c...

We had a campmate, really a village mate, 'try' to commit suicide this year. The girl who found this person (conscious) had to deal with this, well, f...ing drama. I mean, sweet jesus on the cross, what are 'Get out of Drama Free' cards for if not to get out of this sort of crap? But no, our new fri...

I'm sorry...but Burning the Man is one thing, threatening physical violence against someone is a whole different level of game. Smoxalot 420-maybe you can examine your conscience, and all those good mellow 420 vibes and apologize for your call to violence. I'm not sure about Palladdi5-the whole 'ful...

That is all I have to say Both shows that I saw, at Fandango and on the Esplanade, rocked hard.

Thank you for all who put this together!

What bothers me is that I know my kid's porno names...

Jack Indiana
Princess Florence (really ['Princess Honey Moose' Florence)
Tramp Carr
Shilo Florida

It said "non gratuitous", but then said "that ought to test my server", which made it sound to me like they were just trying to drum up traffic. slashdot.org is a popular web site. A _huge_ number of people go to the sites that slashdot refers to. A _huge_ number. This is called 'the slashdot effec...

I'm in agreement with sparkletarte, too. If I were taking my child on any sort of trip/vacation, I'd be carrying ID for them anyway. Hi Ivy, I have three children, including a 16 year old daughter. I have never carried ID around for them except for International travel. I can respect your view, but...

And finally, the words "Nazi" and "Nazism"--with all their ugly historical implications of racism and death camps, etc.--have been raised here by my detractors and not by me. It is my detractors who are pushing the envelope of rhetorical excess here, not me or the other more objective- and fair-min...

I didn't dust the entry, honest! Actually, if I post the actual track log you could calculate my velocity at all times ... sort of Orewellian...

I used a Garmin Rino and IIIplus.

Note...you need the 'SVG' plug in to see the images.

Rich, That is totally cool. Thank you! Do all standard GPS's come with that track-logging feature? I'm wondering aloud how could something like this be turned into a playa-friendly piece of interactive art... All the GPS units I've seen have it. My original overgrand plan was to have a geoannotatin...

I don't know that I care about the silent aspect, but one acre marked off would be cool. We use this language of space and distance. 'a mile, an acre, a quarter acre, a large house, a small house, a large room, a small room' So mark off various common sizes... Here is one acre. Here is a quarter acr...

The basis of the argument is that there is a disagreement about whether sitting improves the view or not. Some, like the author, believe that a seated person behind a seated person is as visually impaired as their standing analogs. So, having x number of seated rows really only improves the view fo...

Honestly everyone stands the second the burn starts - so I'm not really sure of the the point. My experience of the Temple Burn was that everyone around me continued to sit for a _long_ time, until after they pulled down the structure and we were allowed to run forward. The Ranger at 6:00 was great...

Hi Ever, Most GPS units have a 'track log' memory that can record where you go. You can then load that into a computer and print out maps of where you have been. The 'innovation' to my track log maps is that they are animated-you get to see a bit of the motion. Overlaying it on a scaled map is 'comi...

I was sitting in front of the Temple Bus at 6:00. Two goofs were vehement about continuing to stand. Going so far as to say that there was nothing to see yet. That felt icky to me. Another fellow sat down, and we talked a bit. He said something about a bad knee making it harder to sit. He was pretty...

Rich, I'm trying to remain calm, but your tone is starting to infuriate me. And not just me -- everyone here has told you to calm down. You do realize that the talk in this thread won't actually change the rules, right? We're just chatting here. Cool! I am infuriating you! Good! Now you know how it...

zeigen wrote: You're overreacting. No one is forcing rules down your throat; instead we're discussing how we can limit the impact of certain problems. What? The proposal is to close the event on Thursday. This sure sounds like 'forcing a rule down my throat.' It is an idiotic proposal that needs to ...

I can't speak for everyone, but I just read "Drug arrests and citations were also down, preliminary reports showed." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/09/05/national1703EDT0552.DTL I personally saw much more drug use this year than last, and I saw a lot fewer police t...

We have problems, so create more rules! Actually, we don't necesarily even have problems. We have rather weak personal reports that there are problems, followed by a really poorly thought out request that we make more rules to fundamentally change the nature of the event. Hmmm. That doesn't sound li...

You want my friend out of the city. That is an attack. Sorry, but you are the problem, not the yahoos.

omfg! you are so right! people are riding bicycles! and you have decided they don't have enough light! we better close the city! I think that your idea to close the city early is destructive and wrong. It also won't work. A friend couldn't leave until Thursday evening, drove all night to be there Fr...