For folks interested in the Burning Man afterparty pool chill thing. The Grand Sierra is having a 72 hours 50% sale on rooms. Don't use the BURN12 code (good for 20% off otherwise and during the blackout dates) or it goes up $40! http://www.grandsierraresort.com/ 72 HOUR ROOM SALE: Get 50% off your ...

the Crap Sucking truck lords and ladies would probably want me to mention that we should buy septic friendly Toilet Paper to supplement the paper supply. It's not more expensive and saves trouble on the sucking and processing end of the game.

I was in a hot enclosed location without toilet paper and thinking about Burning Man and thought of a great gift some can choose to offer that is cheap and would save many people from discomfort or worse! At certain points of the burn, many portapotties inevitably run out of Toilet paper. It's good ...

I forgot about this thread I make no profit and don't touch the money for my burning man prints that people can order online. Any money just goes to the printing service and it's what they'll charge you for your own pictures. But to update the thread, here are links for 2009, 08 and 07 images. Wet y...

I think part of the reason this thread has so much energy is because a lot of us are trying to balance financial factors and artistic or spiritual impulses. ..snip I was thinking something similar. I've always had the goal of doing what I love to support myself, but there are others, who do what th...

[quote="blyslv"]Can I borrow $5? that would be really beautiful![/quote]

You sure can, but you have to pick it up in person. It'll give you an excuse to visit

Peace

Karl

[quote="K-mom"]Perhaps it would have been a better idea to offer up high-res downloads of some of these images; then, it would have been up to the individual whether or not htey wished to shell out for printing. Setting it up this way requires the exchange of cash for materials, which, as Ron said e...

[quote="Remark"]Can I sell my extra ticket here if I buy one for my brother and for some reason he can't go? If he can't go I was going to try to take a rider and hope they could pay for some gas. commerce?[/quote] Actually there's a whole "selling bought tickets" section of Eplaya and they'll even ...

Thanks Owl I think you have once again shown a graceful way of taking strong exception without being rude or degrading yourself in the process. I also agree that's it's hard to judge tone from plain text and I do feel folks have read things that weren't there. I'm totally guilty of not knowing the c...

Really, KarlBaba, you're doing a heck of a job convincing us that 100,000+ self-promotional threads by all Burning Man attendees past & future on the eplaya is some kind of brilliant notion. Hi Bob It's pretty clear by now that my post didn't achieve my goal of giving something, or, if you suspect ...

I like your politics Tool. I wish I could stop reading commondreams.org cause I need more time. AG and I have our emails working now. She does a lot for the event, I've appreciate her even tone, and you can bet that all of the hundreds she has to work with have made as much or more from the event th...

[quote="actiongrl"]Karl, Actually, I don't think I have a countersigned agreement that gives permission to sell these images, because in order to do that they'd need to undergo a review process. Selling prints is something we take pretty seriously and permission isn't granted until your agreement is...

I thought Owl's post was a good one. I'm not here to do wrong or I wouldn't do it. If my previous posts were wrong, they should have been deleted right? I shared my photos before, folks looked, some got free files, nobody paid money, so you can say I was borderline. Folks got to see for free. The Tr...

[quote="karine"]I also think you might have had good intentions, trying to gift things people might want- you just didn't respect a gifting / no commerce community or their rules and guidelines. Now, you really should register your camera next year, and read the agreement letter you sign (the actual...

You make a poor insultress Karine. How's it supposed to stoke my ego if 5400 folks visit my BM images since Burning Man and they don't buy anything? and you can do the math about the printer yourself whether there's a profit or not. Meanwhile, if ego is also a sin, what's your webpage about? Peace K...

[quote="AntiM"]Thanks, stuff like this makes my head hurt. Safe journeys ... I suppose I'll get me bum kicked if I say I wanna see pictures!?[/quote] India is far from commerce-free, although there are a different set of ethical considerations to wrassle with. I learned enough language to make elimi...

The thread is still here as the discussion has gotten interesting. However, since it is not okay to sell anything on eplaya, the active link is gone. Yep, this is an extension of the playa. Says so right in the TOS. Sound like a wise action. If folks are interested in discussing these issues, they ...

Despite rumors otherwise, eschewing the trappings of commerce wasn't a moral, ethical, or spiritual decision -- it was an esthetic one. They just didn't want to see people selling shit. If that appears shallow, keep in mind it's an art festival. And given that you're selling shit, don't be surprise...

Lucky I thought I answered your question. Of course I think it's OK or I woudn't do it. I asked a few questions as well about commerce. Careers in BMORG, Artists selling their stuff, money off the playa. Care to answer them? I feel most guilty about spending too much precious time typing on this thr...

Killer, since mine are only going to be available at cost for a short time. You should tells us how folks can get your photos for free. Same way as they always have, email me and ask. I'll do exactly as you do and either email them a high res file or upload it to the company I use for printing and ...

If you think professional photography is so easy and profitable, I suggest you take it up. Are you talking to me? Because I did. It's how I make my living. You're right, it's not easy or profitable for most. That's no excuse for making(trying to make) money off of the event regardless of how many t...

It's pointless to argue whether I engage in commerce in general. Of course I do. Did I do so at Burning Man, where it's supposed to be commerce free? I don't think so. I didn't touch any money there even for ice. I did bring a stack of prints of my landscape stuff in 8x10 mattes to give out free to ...

Sadly not lucrative. Haven't made one dime from Burning Man yet, even towards covering any expense at all much less profit. (except that a few folks ordered prints at cost from printroom) Doesn't mean a better business guy or better artist couldn't do better or that this forum shouldn't delete a thr...

"Your analogy is flawed. It's like if one camp gives away ice so you take it then put it up for sale at the cost of moving it from their camp to yours." Which is still a non-profit deal. Having costs covered (not even labor costs, just actual expenses) means effort gets expended but no money is accu...

I want to remind you that he is not selling at cost. He is losing money on every one of these. I think loss leaders are supposed to get you into the grocery store for the milk, so you buy cookies too. Even the non-burner stuff was offered at the printing cost. snip Yikes! I'd like to clarify some o...

[quote="Deleted Barkeep"][quote="Bob"]Okay, toss the Community Guidelines.[/quote] Got to side with Bob. Think about it. Guy has site on which he sells photos at a profit. Guy announces special sale, moving merchandise at cost during holidays. When holidays are over, visitors are still in the habit ...

[quote="MikeVDS"]From dictionary.com: [quote] com·merce /ˈkɒmərs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kom-ers] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. an interchange of goods or commodities, esp. on a large scale between different countries (foreign commerce) or between ...

[quote="MikeVDS"]^ Ok. Would you please explain how he's gaining from this? If you think it's an advertisement for his products, I can pretty much guarantee it's one of the worst ever. He's basically giving away all of the product that would be targeted toward his audience. If you see some other way...

[quote="Bob"]Thanks, but I already have a lifetime supply of Dr. Bronner's Pure Castile Wintergreen Urinal Refresher.[/quote]

If you check the label Bob, you'll see it's good for essene Birth Control and Playa foot as well.

;-)

Karl

[quote="helitack"]Yep, the man. Protecting squirrels and coyotes and rocks from feeders and bolters and users of chalk. Check your PM[/quote] Got a PM from Helitack and got to see some of his stuff and his name too. So definitely not a pussy. Us photographers always like the smell of our own farts. ...