John, I *just* found a taker before seeing your message. Sorry!

I've got a bunch of wire, drivers & sequencer type stuff available for free pickup in Boulder. No shipping, pick up only, just need to bring a box. (starting my spring cleaning early!)

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> Does what happen on the playa stay on the playa?

This implies that somthing actually [i]does happen[/i] on the playa. In my experience, nothing does.

How about a community-organized (that's US!) astronomy meet & education session in the deep playa in '08? If we decided on a night & time (with an alternate to account for weather), we could get listed as an event in the guide, get together and show anyone who showed up some cool stuff. Those of us ...

spectabillis wrote:anyone know what he's specifically chaged with? i have been constantly searching for references but cant find any.

"Addis, who's been charged with the felony of arson..."
"the premature incinerator, released on some $3,000 in bail..."

Reference: http://valleywag.com/tech/paul-addis/

[quote="chiefdanfox"]I could bring a lapped-out laptop, and use the ccd camera I have, but I am w/o a projector. Maybe something for next year?[/quote] I have a projector, but it's a really nice one. Also turns out (after an experiment last year done by a campmate) that without extraordinary efforts...

This sounds like a neat idea, but I am not sure fine optics and playa dust are really compatible. In a cleaner environment than the playa, I have done what you suggest, and as careful as we are it is amazing how much dust we collect. I just cannot imagine taking my scope out there. Now on the flip ...

Being a fan of "Sidewalk Astronomy: education (and having an astro degree), I've contemplated bringing a scope out during various years. If I found a cheap enough 8" or so on ebay, I might even buy it just for use in hostile conditions, and the pleasure of showing people (CITY people, mostly) what t...

Would that have been cool in the context of the argument that it wasn't a safety issue because nobody was hurt? That's how HUNTER FUCKIN THOMPSON would do it, right? He didn't set fires, he used machine guns. What was Addis thinking? While Hunter might hve done so, he would also had a reasoned resp...

Machine guns arent illegal either. You just have to have the requisite paperwork to own. Granted. I only used the example as a reference point because in the earlier, more chatotic days of BM (prior to my arrival in '97), there were such things as "drive by shooting ranges", and in off-event sites ...

[quote="ZaphodBurner"]Hey, guys. There are laws against both arson and discharge of firearms, so if one isn't a safety problem because nobody gets hurt, what about the other? What if instead of burning the man, he had opened fire on it? Or what if I smuggled in a semiautomatic rifle, got really drun...

/rant after almost getting run over twice and the ass hat that would speed by two times a day. i think it's about time to ban them from BRC what do you think /rant off I drive an electric goped, always lit, and nearly silent. But as a general response: Let's ban: smoking drinking gopeds golf carts ...

mensen wrote:Next time, ask and you shall have more time with them.

Pike's 1st rule of the playa: don't fuck with someone else's burn.

Simple, useful, obvious, and always functional principle.

While y'all disappeared pre-burn, we loved being across-the-street neighbors while you were there and thanks for the lovely bloodies! We missed you when you were gone.

punishing this guy seems like a moot point... 1 year (3 months served with good behavior) is enough to make anyone like him rethink his attitude and it sets an example for others. (obviously he is a punk and not much else) A fine equal to the price of the man is reasonable, and 3 years or more of p...

also CDS-topher: Your remarks about support for a felon strike me as a little off center. Can you clarify? You hinted in your previous post sympathy for those who break laws (felons) perhaps.. You yourself breaking laws? (Drugs, prostitution etc...?) It seems irrelevant to point out that paul is a ...

spectabillis wrote:despite what you might think, i believe its more important to learn than to prove myself right. if you can do it, thats fine by me.

I heartily agree!

[quote="Mandy Wonder"] CDS-Topher: Being sassy and condescending like remedial English is not helping your argument, but it frowns upon your character. Also: it seems to have devolved into you shouting down anyone who disagrees with your support for a felon. I do not see this being the case. He's no...

Mcdharma wrote:BTW,
with regard to the premature burning of the man, what part in the gifting mentality does forgiveness play?

Well, every year, we'll go to his prison and take him a gift of the ashes of the man in a little plastic baggie. (or maybe a paper bag, since it can be recycled.)

its relevant because you say people were at serious risk, yet you cant back that up. If you need remedial English lessons let me know, I'll do what I can. Otherwise, refer to paragraph 1, four posts up, where I explicityly explain why people were at "serious risk". Otherwise, I think I might refrai...

spectabillis wrote:so far there is nothing to show someone almost lost their life, not even close.

This is a good thing.

Why is it relevant? Should there have been a "close call" or "severe injury" or "a death" for jackass' actions to warrant arrest and imprisonment?

Umm...maybe because you're apparently rabidly defending his actions? no, our immediate discussion is - not being dangerous as most are playing it up to be. thats not a defense of his actions. did I see MULTIPLE people running from the structure AFTER the fire started? Yes, absolutely. Did I watch a...

If you weren't, you're just justifying the actions of someone you agree with. why do you think i am justifying it? Umm...maybe because you're apparently rabidly defending his actions? were there people trapped inside the pavillian? if not, please explain how it started and how the people moved from...

Flammepus wrote:In fact, I would be willing to donate my share of any settlement to burners without borders...

Well said, damnit.

no my mind isnt made up in that ultimate sense, but i still dont think it was dangerous as most are playing it up to be. Were you there, physically, watching? I was. It was utterly dangerous, destructive, and put lives (not to mention valuable art) at risk. I WAS THERE, BEGINNING TO END. If you wer...

endangerment: there are many people operating bar cars while drinking and serving others drinks, people jump on and off of them, people ride bikes around open flame pits, crowds of people collect around fire sculptures with no safety barriers, some fires are in the middle of sound camps with people...

OK, so I'll admit admit to having served some unspecified amount of time in a county jail long prior to my first ever BM attendance (1997 - ten years, *twelve* burns, since I was an eyewitness this year's st!). And in light of this conversation, I've been doing some thinking. We put kids in jail for...

Center camp and/or esplanade, betweeb 6:00 and 7:00. Lost late week, while photographing lamplighters & Electroshock Therapy. Was riding electric scooter.

Can identify brand and color of lenses, and neck cord if it's still attached.

spectabillis wrote:you think he should get twenty years in prison?

Felony Arson = Felony Arson.

And that's without the potential for human casualities.

Let him practice his "art" in Nevada's extensive prison system.

i'm all for that. Agreed! It's a damn big desert, and even with as many of us as there are these days, we don't make a DENT in it, except for MOOP. Find Camp Cul-de-sac next year, and we'll treat you to a good time...maybe even a few treats, as long as a couple of us I can think of get to pull out ...