Does the ticket program have a problem with this? I am sharing a house with another burner. Seem to recall reading somewhere that the anti scalping algorithms had a problem with this. Searched a bit and didn't find anything. ???

Thanks!

You would hate the "meal plan" at Barbie Death Camp . Suffice it to say we ain't Burger King. You don't get it your way. You get it our way and like it or you don't get it all. Gluten free? Fuck that. Vegetarian? What the hell do we look like, hippies? Health food? Only if bacon, absinthe, and mimo...

LOL

I agree completely. As mentioned elsewhere, I believe that big, long term, changes will result from this years ticket experiences.

Your hyperboly aside, the BMorgs lack of transparency on all these issues adds significant credence to the NYT story along with other mainstream media pieces.
Follow the money...

Sparklekitty,
I agree with your sentiment. Please note that Andie Grace wrote the PR. Not Will Chase.
Cheers

That was sure a lot of words to say that they still don't know what the fuck they are going to do to solve the problem. It was actually a lot like reading that post here from the PR person. Some of it almost word for word. I noticed that too. I saw input there from at least 3 of us. There is actual...

I'm older than you :) I've been a few times. All the advice above is great and I note that the authors are well respected folks around here. My $.02 is that you keep it simple your first year. Bring a camping tent. Bring some bigger stakes. As other have pointed out, rebar can be overkill for some a...

No worries on the drift. And very good point about traffic. IMO traffic is the biggest controlling factor in the long term equation. Particularly now that current ticket demand suggests BM will be at it's max projected growth rate for the forseeable future.

Cheers

I particularly note the reporter who was asked by the BMorg to sign a form preventing him from asking any questions about BMorg finances - prior to conducting any interviews...

There's some nice ethics for ya.

Transparency... sheesh.

LOL
Got any better ideas? Would love to heaer about them. I'm sure the BMorg would as well.

Cheers

Links for badger: (and anyone that thinks the BMorg finances are benine) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-heilig/burning-man-be-really-rad_b_931948.html http://philanthropy.com/blogs/philanthropytoday/burning-man-founders-mum-on-payout-as-festival-goes-nonprofit/39229 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/...

Lets see,
On the one hand we have badger (who is approaching stalker status).
On the other hand we have articles from respected authors that have run in publications like the NYT and SFBG.

<snip> That's on top of the pre sale 10,000. <snip> Do you know for sure if there were 10,000 lottery entrants for the pre sale? obviously not. But given the massive oversubscription of the main sale (nearly 3x) I find it hard to believe that the presale did not sell 10k tickets. There has also bee...

This is your year!
Every group or theme camp is going to be short handed due to the ticket debacle. I figure 20% short will be about average.

So pick a camp and volunteer! Make it happen! Pretty much every organization will need some people.

Cheers!
Igneouss

'we had nearly three times the number of tickets requested than we had available tickets' Andie Grace That means about ~110,000 tickets were requested. That's on top of the pre sale 10,000. Scalping is not the problem. I've focused on scalping as the primary issue driving change and that was clearly...

Diamond lanes are typically used for rush hour traffic in big cities. They are express or commuter lanes. Some require high occupancy vehicles or a toll. There is no chance of such a thing happening on HWY447 without adding a lane.

10k tickets will not come close to filling the gap. If the LLC dumps their last 10k tickets on the theme campers then the secondary market will explode. If you think there was scalping last year...you ain't seen nothing yet. Or the LLC could hold the 10k tickets and trickle them out on the secondary...

Sounds like dredlocks in an RV would be ok

Eliminate:
All white men with dreds and women with pierced noses...

Eliminate the large sound camps.

LOL

If it's understood as "anyone is welcome" instead of "everyone is guaranteed to be able to attend" it can still exist fine. Your point is excellent. But what happens when you factor in all the groups that get tickets regardless? Conclave? All the various skill sets like DPW and Rangers and center c...

reality sucks, eh?

IMHO :) The key is that you both understand what is different about the burning man world. You start from the assumption that you have a mutually happy relationship in the default world. The next assumption is that the virgin agrees that BM seems like an interesting adventure. Good? So you need to b...

Everyone here talks about scalpers as if they are some 'other' group of people. I have bad news for you. Out of 50k+ burners there are more than enough willing to sell tickets at a profit. In other words, we are the scalpers. Burner ethics? Hmmmm.... Well, having worked in very large very ethical or...

'I'm in a big theme camp so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I've attended for a zillion years so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I'm a ranger/conclave/etc so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I invested 1000s of hours in some project so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I always wanted to attend so I am entitled to a t...

'I'm in a big theme camp so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I've attended for a zillion years so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I'm a ranger/conclave/etc so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I invested 1000s of hours in some project so I am entitled to a ticket' 'I always wanted to attend so I am entitled to a t...

In economics perception is often reality. In our case the perception of a shortage has caused people to act like there IS a shortage. Reality is not relevant in this case. Perception is in the driver's seat. The Org is screwed and fighting a deparate rear-guard action. Bummer. Profit estimate for th...

Not at all too late to make a positive change to this mess. Names can still be put on tickets . Ask those that won the lottery for the names, now. Either that, or it goes back into the STEP. A simple ID and ticket check at the gate won't overly slow down entry (hell, I've waited 4+ hours on the pla...

The org needs to put a significant number of tickets for sale on the STEP system so that it will be shown to be viable. Any time scalper tickets go up in cost, the org should release a few more tickets to drive down the price. Make it very clear that scalpers will be undercut every time. The idea th...