.hmmm... had a nasty chest cold, that luckily only lasted about three-four days, right after the playa. I attributed it to my coughing, sneezing teenage daughter that greeted us when we arrived home.

DallasPlaya wrote:Cos, can't you use bungee balls instead of zip ties? Not only are they re-useable, they flex with the wind loads.

8" Ball Bungies rock. Elegant, one hand install, and they self adjust to both wind load and side to side tension. And reusable...

Perfect structure and camp this year. The Box Lounge chill space in Illumination Village. 28'x20' steel conduit with connectors, medium rise roof, 10' height at center, 8 foot at side walls. Covered with a machine sewn tan colored, cotton velvet shade cloth, held in place by 8" ball bungies through ...

omtaiyoqi wrote:ThinkCooper, Marc might know of flame throwers pics . Did you check
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=10953

Let me know if you find them.
-T

No luck on flamethrowers from the Friday night Machine procession. I'll keep looking@!

I'd love to see some photographs of the flame thrower procession prior to the collapse on Friday night. Anyone have any to share?

AntiM wrote:I've heard the ignition did not go as planned and everything went off at once. Premature pyrotechinics, I wonder if there's a little pill for that.

They only got through 4 of the 30 or so pyro cues before the whole shebang went off.

I know Rangers. Have some as friends. This year's crew was agro.

We had them stroll through our village several times, at different times of day.

Our bullhorn let all know they were in the village.

Having assisted over several years in live scenario/firearm training excercises with both NPS and BLM Rangers, my first hand experience is that there are some very cool, level headed staff in their ranks. But the majority I've encountered are under-utilized and bored day to day, making them extremel...

You got a point there...

So here's a question - would you prefer to deny 20 artists with visions for smaller, cheaper pieces their chance at a grant (theme, interactivity, etc aside for the moment) so as to ensure that 4 or 5 artists of Jim Mason's stature could do $40,000 projects? Whatever the amount, each year there wil...

Rian Jackson wrote:Back to processing all of this. Oh, and thanks for dropping the non-productive flame war, boys. This is much preferable.

Yes indeed! Processing here as well, much perferrable to figuring out how to defuse.

Walk around naked all day and your shoulders, back, and chest are a lot more likely to burn than the rest of you. That's where most of your body surface is, on top. Probably, you're carrying a pack that's going to chafe a bare back. At the same time, if you've spent a couple days (or months or year...

LadyBee, thank you for your contributions to outsider art. It's remarkable to see the Leonardo Journal projects, they make me smile. BM deserves to be proud of the canvas it's provided and what it has helped produce. Any chance of viewing a detailed list of projects you've granted to over the years?

if I think about it in a certain context it is illuminating and depressing; burning man is gentrifying. Now, there are some good things about gentrifying but in the context of burning man not so much. If we think about it in that paradigm what can be done? Anything? What do people do when they star...

Version1 wrote:Would a short, humble letter requesting a small change have drawn this much attention to the problem?

I don't think so.

[quote="thinkcooper"] All that bullshit spouted, maybe it's simply a matter of Burners coming to terms with the event's evolution, and those that can influence the feel the event taking on a different sense where they are not just performing for other early adopters but a host of attendees that both...

Perhaps meat for another thread. Maybe not. What I'm wondering is if there's anyone else out there that feels that this is contributing to a sense of decline in the event? Is the passion that's showing at this particular moment in fact symptomatic of a larger unaddressed/ignored issue? Just curious...

I'm not judging the rightness or wrongness of how things are getting responded to. I'm just saying it escalates into the peasant with pitchfork mentality and eventually starts boiling over into personal insults which anyone can see over on the 'voter' portion of the petition page. It's polarizing a...

technopatra wrote:FYI - I merged the "we curate the art" thread with this one, as is it the same topic and that thread had only 3 responses in it.

Carry on.

Cool! Good idea.

My apologies for starting a thread on the same topic a couple of hours later than this one. The thread seems to be where most of the discussion has been going down - just wanted to post those apologies and a link to that other thread...

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=7610

Techo'P, I'd asked in an earlier post that was deleted during the crash if you had access to a list of the projects that have been funded on the Playa over the years. The list would be quite impressive to read and would include some of the most memorable pieces of art I've ever seen. I think it wou...

Given all this fixing that seems in demand, (referring to an old adage) what is BROKEN?? There's only a few things the petitioners are pointing out as broken- The problem: Big signature art pieces that have helped make Burning Man what it is are disappearing. The hypothetical roots of the problem: ...

Jesus says "super size please".

If you want to be taken seriiously then first demand engagement - a place at the table - for dialogue before you go threatening to drop your little pissant warhead. There may be more than one way to skin a cat, but the petition sure does seem to be "a" powerful way to head directly towards securing...

Wonderful description of ownership and the complexity of the interdependencies. Thanks for that! A silly metaphor comes to mind- Professional sports fans don't own their home teams, but they sure do express their opinions to the team owners and managers regarding a variety of team issues. And the ow...

If funding big art is a concern, then what is stopping the artists in question from forming their own nonprofit arts foundation and seeking out donations to fund it? Because it's often easier to demand out of a sense of entitlement than it is to actually work for it? Or perhaps it may be related to...

R'J', I don't know if the proposals in the petition are the perfect points to present; like you, I'm mulling the options, and some of the ones you put forward seem mighty logical as alternatives. My hope is that the petiton and artists' efforts behind the petition yields a process that is a more col...

Sadly, we lost another page and change of good responses to this topic with the 11-16 server crash.

I guess the missing post in the thread referenced above were created after 2am GMT...

Thanks for the repairs. The last thread I was active in lost two pages of entries from yesterday (11-16-04) afternoon.

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=7610

Will those missing pages be able to restored?