I could extend the "emotionally distraught" thing to the point where if hypothetically your wife had actually been killed, and when you hear about it, are so upset that you walk right out of your house and see a cab-driver of mid-eastern descent and pull him out of his car and start beating the cra...

affg, I can see that you have actually thought through the entire situation. Perhaps looked at the arguments on both sides, which is hardly what I can say for others. I credit you with at least speaking with reason. However, read this: First, lets scratch the pentagon out of the argument. We can agr...

Oh, and in the future, please try not to misquote me. Thanks in advance.

In your opinion.

I didn't know that had been amended to include creating opportunities for business, but maybe you know something I don't. I'm beginning to get tired of repeating myself, but once again, this IS your opinion. Sorry if I don't agree. POLITICIANS. Therefore, when their lips are moving, they are lying....

Here's a great article from the L.A. Times about the recently discovered documents proving that the U.S. government under Reagan and Bush I nurtured and supported Hussein despite full knowledge of his repeated use of chemical weapons. http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1230-07.htm My favorite line...

In my opinion.

But of course. And your opinion means a lot to me Badger.

Likewise, Bush can't go to the reservists and say 'hey, uh, could you possibly throw away a year of your life so that Cheney's pals can sell gas for $2.34 a gallon in one of the most oil rich nations in the world? Thanks, your the best. Once again, this is your opinion. You cannot join the armed se...

Acting as though the USA can do no wrong only hurts your credibility and causes others to dismiss you. I have never once stated that I believe this. The US has been wrong on more than one occasion, and I wouldn't lead anyone to belive that the US is 100% right. Where I take exception is when people...

in your opinion And that's the final say all for all of this. And Stuart's attempt to sway my opinion is about as likely as me swaying his opinion. We can both provide facts to support our beliefs, but in the end that's all it is. It's all in the eyes of the observer. I just believe that America is...

But, if we all casually persist in this cycle don't be surpised when another building and or plane goes down. I'm not holding my breath waiting for peace. There is too much money to be made. Everything's a conspiracy isn't it? Weather we persist in our current course or not, there will be more plan...

occupying infidels from their land? This argument doesn't fly either. We're not the only targets. In fact only a small minority of their attacks have been on us, or on our soil. In fact the majority of their attacks have been on their own governments and people. You can defend the terrorists all yo...

Yo Eclipitc, In your non-blindly "kill them because they want to kill me" scenario, do the 3,800 (minimum) to 5,000 civilian deaths in Afghanistan in the months immediatley following 911 enter the equation? As you may recall, the final tally of deaths from the World Trade Center was 2,998, so in th...

I'm trying to figure out how anyone could view flying loaded airplanes into various buildings killing thousands as "protecting your own". I'm not blindly killing anyone. It's pretty clear who I'd kill and why. This is war whether you believe that or not, and I guarantee there will be more massive at...

Sounds like this is personal for you. The reason I'd kill them is different than the reason they'd kill me. They seek out innocents to kill in mass numbers to advance their religion. I would kill them to protect my own. See the difference yet?

How is that? What's wrong with those statements? I would kill them if given the opportunity. I spent 8 years in the military, and never had the chance. It goes way beyond 9/11 too. They've been attacking us for years now, and we haven't done anything serious about it unitl now.

"Any country's leader that encourages terrorism either domestic or outside of the boundary does so primarily to keep his ass in power" i agree with that for the most part. when we trained bin laden he wasn't a terrorist, he was a freedom fighter. We had a common enemy, the Soviet Union. relationship...

yeah, well I guess it's all in the way you look at it. We could go tit for tat for days on who's fucked with who. As far as I'm concerned those fuckers can all go to hell. and don't think i'm talking about middle easterners in general. let's get that straight. i have never actually met someone from ...

You're right about parts of that. I should have been more specific. I was talking about the main threat towards the US, Al Queda. There are domestic terrorists too, and they're no better. However why should I as an American hold any responsibility for what these fucks bring to us? These other countr...

Well, I couldn't think of a better tag line for some people's reasoning.

Once there you can scroll down to the bottom and click to go to the links for the research. I'll update the reply to your post on that site every now and then till it gets finished. So you want people to go research your claims? WTF? If you can't back something up when you post it, don't bother. Th...

Lilly Flower wrote:That's it.

I am going to get a sock puppet.

And it is going to be a guy this time.

Whoops! I should have kept that to myself huh?

that's pretty funny when you have your own puppets talking to each other DF.

I love you Tawny

Oh, and apparently he believes that "DFTT" was coined for him. I'm sure it's been used in reference to him. But De Facto, my take on that acronym is that it means: Dont Feed The Trolls. Not everything is about you.

I was just graced with a pm from De Facto. I don't know this guy, but apparently he's still looking for attention. So I decided to give it to him. I suspect I'm not the only one this went to. You be the judge. Here it is in it's entirety: It's kinda too bad you are not one of the original BM inner c...

Absolutely, he's the man to ask.

I was going to try not to start a crush list, but now I have to. Thanks foam.

Chai Guy,

DFTT, or socks

I'm with Lydia. BMR is just the latest incarnation of WSPR. He's just trying to keep his own threads going.

Well, I know now that you're not WSPR or last real burner. In fact LRB has been on these boards for years. However Lilly Flower is entirely too obvious. Funny how the majority of her posts are directly after yours.