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by Rob the Wop
Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:25 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: How Fuel efficient is your car?
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by Rob the Wop
Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:58 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

So would it be true to say that the statement "There is no god" cannot be proven? Please, just a true or false answer. No, it is not a true or false statement. It is an invalid statement. Kind of like dividing by zero in the mathematics world. This is an equivilant in the world of logic. "There is ...
by Rob the Wop
Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:08 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

So would it be true to say that the statement "There is no god" cannot be proven? Please, just a true or false answer. No, it is not a true or false statement. It is an invalid statement. Kind of like dividing by zero in the mathematics world. This is an equivilant in the world of logic. "There is ...
by Rob the Wop
Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:13 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Play-by-play man: And THERE it is, ladies and gentlemen, Huch Mungus executing the classic "You misspelled (whatever)". Color man: You had to see that one coming, Bob. Here we are on page six and we expected to see this. It was obvious, to me anyway, if not to Hugh, that he couldn't keep on takin' ...
by Rob the Wop
Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:55 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

I don't understand how, if you can't disprove something, that you CAN prove that something does not exist simply by there being no evidence that it does exist. In other words, Ranger seems to be saying that you CAN prove that something doesn't exist simply by there being no evidence of its existenc...
by Rob the Wop
Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:10 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

First, please resolve these two seemingly conflicting statements. You really need to take a class in logic if you're going to enter this style of debate. a) If x is a supposed member of set y , then to state "there is no x in y "- you have to know all of the members of set y . If set y is infinite ...
by Rob the Wop
Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:05 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

You cannot disprove anything. If there IS NO evidence of something's existence, it does not exist. First, please resolve these two seemingly conflicting statements. You really need to take a class in logic if you're going to enter this style of debate. a) If x is a supposed member of set y , then t...
by Rob the Wop
Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:32 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

It's as clear as it's always been. You have chosen to use a very narrow definition of the nature of god (in this case, god OR science, god OR nature) and used it to prove to yourself that there is no god. For someone who accuses someone else of being stupid and childish, it's a strangely closed-min...
by Rob the Wop
Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:46 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Finally something to work with. OK, why even posit that God exists in the first place? I think we can both agree that if we make up something out of thin air, it is pointless trying to prove it exists simply because I made it up- right? I suddenly say that there are green Twinkies waiting to kill me...
by Rob the Wop
Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:04 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

No. I'm saying that you're using bible literalism to prove that god does not exist and it's a surprisingly big fallacy in your argument. Oh, and I'm interested in knowing which particular fallacy you are refering to. Or is this just another example of you using a $.05 word that you don't understand...
by Rob the Wop
Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:18 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

No. I'm saying that you're using bible literalism to prove that god does not exist and it's a surprisingly big fallacy in your argument. Oh, and I'm interested in knowing which particular fallacy you are refering to. Or is this just another example of you using a $.05 word that you don't understand?
by Rob the Wop
Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:07 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

HughMungus wrote: That's nice. Could you simply answer these questions?
All of your questions have been addressed numerous times. Reread this entire thread. It's not my fault if you aren't bright enough to grasp the concepts presented.
by Rob the Wop
Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:19 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Put simply, if you cannot prove something exists (or even show a reasonable amount of evidence for its existence), it does not exist . That's the very definition of nonexistence. If there's no evidence of it at all, and cannot be any evidence, then it does not exist. This is not the same thing as s...
by Rob the Wop
Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:58 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: How Fuel efficient is your car?
Replies: 723
Views: 118244

I think KIV was pointing out the irony which exists in the cases of MOST electric car users (which, as I said, doesn't apply to you) that the owner bought it to be environmentally conscientious, but is actually causing more harm than good by effectively buying a coal-powered car. There are also ext...
by Rob the Wop
Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:24 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Occam's Razor (also spelled Ockham's Razor) is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, and is also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy. In its simplest form, Occam's Razor ...
by Rob the Wop
Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:24 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: How Fuel efficient is your car?
Replies: 723
Views: 118244

Fully electric. Moot point. Ha! Ha ha! http://mysite.verizon.net/res0ama0/gizmo2.jpg Awww, that's cute. Now playing devil's advocate for a bit.... How many tons of coal did it take to provide power for that electric car? How much mercury was released into the environment by those coal fired plants ...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:16 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

HM, I told you why I don't believe. Were you not listening? EVERYONE has told him. He is incapable of hearing what he doesn't want to. TRUE logic is meaningless to him, nothing but a word he uses that he hasn't bothered looking up the meaning. His selective hearing capacity doesn't change one whit ...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:01 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: How Fuel efficient is your car?
Replies: 723
Views: 118244

Fully electric. Moot point. Ha! Ha ha!

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by Rob the Wop
Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:08 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Hitler. Nazi. Hilter. Nazi. Godwin's Law. This has officially become unbearabley lame. Between massive leaps of illogic, a 10 year old's debate strategies, and attempts to kill accounts from weenie TOC calls- this is now just painful to watch unfold. Please stop. For the love of a non-existant, or i...
by Rob the Wop
Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:05 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Hugh, I'm not an agnostic. Regardless of how much you would like to think it. My BELIEF SYSTEM (please look up belief, please, pretty please) is such that god doesn't exist. Agnosticism is kind of pointless really, not being a priest- a belief in god doesn't affect me much at all. But I'm not going ...
by Rob the Wop
Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:16 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: The Bar
Replies: 88940
Views: 7415875

tisha2 wrote:<stumbles in the back door, depleted and shellshocked>

drink...?
Hiya hot schtuff. Long time no see.
by Rob the Wop
Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:46 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Oops. My bad. I just found out a couple seconds ago that I do believe in God. And here's my logical proof for you Hugh. 1) A man's belief system is individual to them. 2) Every man is different from any other man based upon their genetics, experiences, and environmental conditioning. 3) Technology d...
by Rob the Wop
Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:02 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Let me spell it out for you: How do you think you arrived at your belief that there is no god? I'm starting to think that you're agnostic, not atheist. By the way, I'm not challenging anyone. I'm curious as to how someone arrives at "There is no god." I love rabid agnostics. Its funny to meet them,...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:26 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

I have no idea where you're getting the idea that I need to accept anything. Uhm, you're the one not accepting another's belief systems. You are going so far as to challenge their reasons for their beliefs. Ergo, entirely missing the point of a belief. Why would someone try to convince themselves o...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:29 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

<sigh> Alright, let me try and point out something. a) I already stated that it is impossible to prove god exists by the very nature of its existance. It may or may not exist (in this context- I am still an atheist), but providing proof either way is impossible. PLEASE let's get that out of the way,...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:34 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

Hugh: Once again, you're showing a woeful ignorance when it comes to the working of logic. Let's just get this out of the way, in nice bold letters: You cannot disprove anything. You cannot disprove the statement that I am one of RtheW's grass monsters or man-eating twinkies. Does that mean you bel...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:32 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

So it's impossible to prove either the existence or the non-existence of god? Is there a difference between saying, "There is no god" and saying, "I believe there is no god"? a) Yes. It is impossible to prove/disprove the existance of god simply because god, by definition, is omnipotent. Therefore ...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:05 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

So it's impossible to prove either the existence or the non-existence of god? Is there a difference between saying, "There is no god" and saying, "I believe there is no god"? a) Yes. It is impossible to prove/disprove the existance of god simply because god, by definition, is omnipotent. Therefore ...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:02 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

A = ~A; FALSE They are not logically equivilant. As to the concept of beliefs, everyone has them. It is the way it we think, and this is a good thing. Agnostics may claim the miraculous ability to be free of faith, but this is wrong. Go into a room you have never been in. It is empty save a light bu...
by Rob the Wop
Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:46 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Why are you an atheist?
Replies: 722
Views: 98740

A belief system and logical analysis are not the same things at all times. You can believe in a logical argument and/or have a perfectly logical argument that is unbelievable. I see the statement "There is no God." the equivilant of "There is no purple talking grass monsters in Hoboken, NJ that spea...

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