2008 "American Dream" theme

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:43 pm

Lifeisshort wrote:I hear that they are asking Bush and Cheney to Light the Man

Well, yes..., but from INSIDE the Man's head!

B.

scouts honor · Post by **scouts honor** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:27 am

i hate the theme too but not sure what you can do about it. id hate to think a theme kept me away from burning man. so im going with just DREAMS as my theme.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:50 am

Dreams and Nightmares. That'll be your theme.

scouts honor · Post by **scouts honor** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:37 pm

Dreams And Nightmares. I like it. Alot.

SFNathan · Post by **SFNathan** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:49 pm

"i hate the theme too but not sure what you can do about it."

There never used to be themes for Burning Man. At the beginning, Burning Man was a 100% anarchist event and rules for the event were only agreed upon eventually by the community to foster safety for the event. The process for choosing a theme is very insider right now. Perhaps if enough of us speak our mind, the BMORG will realize that the way "they" choose themes is not in sync with "our" community that never was a community of passive observers of "their" creation of things like "their" chosen themes.

This event is about individual participation and shared community. Maybe they should find a way to choose a theme that is consistent with the values of this community and have the theme be decided with more input from the community rather than just Larry Harvey doing it himself. I think that the election idea for a theme is good but it needs to be refined. A theme selection committee ought to be formed to come up with three different themes a year, and then let an online vote happen to select the theme that the community wants for the year. That would create some order around theme selection, while still allowing the theme to be chosen by participants rather than a small group of insiders with no input from the larger Burner community.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:16 pm

I'm soo excited about the theme I am about to poop my pants. Such a great theme to challenge artists. As always it will be what WE make of it. We are FREE to RADICALLY SELF EXPRESS ourselves as we see fit as long as we don't commit arson or anything else common sense dictates shouldn't be done. As far as the fireworks ban.. fuck it some rules are made to be broken.

LEAD
FOLLOW
or
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY

This can be applied to ANY years theme BTW.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:10 pm

Toolmaker wrote:I'm soo excited about the theme I am about to poop my pants. Such a great theme to challenge artists. As always it will be what WE make of it. We are FREE to RADICALLY SELF EXPRESS ourselves as we see fit as long as we don't commit arson or anything else common sense dictates shouldn't be done. As far as the fireworks ban.. fuck it some rules are made to be broken.

LEAD
FOLLOW
or
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY

This can be applied to ANY years theme BTW.

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lookout tool, there are people on this thread that want to piss on your parade..

i m hooked on the AM DRM theme..

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:20 pm

unjonharley wrote:lookout tool, there are people on this thread that want to piss on your parade..

i m hooked on the AM DRM theme..

Than they can come by homeless camp and piss on the homeless.. alot better than whats done to the homeless in the default world. Hopefully I will be able to draw in some support and get it done.

COPPERFISH · Post by **COPPERFISH** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:52 am

BAS wrote:
Lifeisshort wrote:I hear that they are asking Bush and Cheney to Light the Man
Well, yes..., but from INSIDE the Man's head!

B.

funny. like throwing out the first ball at a baseball game.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:11 pm

Toolmaker wrote:
unjonharley wrote:lookout tool, there are people on this thread that want to piss on your parade..

i m hooked on the AM DRM theme..
Than they can come by homeless camp and piss on the homeless.. alot better than whats done to the homeless in the default world. Hopefully I will be able to draw in some support and get it done.

\/
my kid just got a new frig.. i ll see if she saved the box..

gregginsf · Post by **gregginsf** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:01 am

Ok, as far as any way I can slice it this is somewhere between stupendously and suicidally stupid. On the stupendously stupid side, just voicing the kind of polarization that patriotism has on world populations gives voice to the hatreds that have and still divide us as a species. It would be one thing if we were some backwater country proud of our ability to stand up for ourselves, but as the strongest country (currently) on earth it has the effect of a Straight White Male Pride festival.

On the suicidally stupid side is any of the (more enlightened in my opinion) art and demonstrations of how hateful and misguided the standard view of patriotism is. This would be all well and good, but how will this play in the controversy-loving corporate press? It will just take one undercover FOX camera man, and BOOM - Burning Man is not only a bunch of fruits and nuts getting freaky in the desert! No, then we're also branded as subversives, and America hating. Causing the fine residents of Nevada to call for "stricter law enforcement" to get rid of the "blame America first" crowd.

Wow! I'm not sure you could pick a theme with the potential for a worse outcome! The sheer devisiveness of the theme may create some stunningly thought-provoking art - I'm sure that was the goal. But, it may unleash the unravelling of the event itself! Let's hope this can be undone somehow!

Peace, love and playa!

Noj · Post by **Noj** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:11 pm

Burning Man Theme: The American Dream

Of course I have read the few paragraphs about the theme and all on the Burning Man website, but this coming year's theme, the American Dream, is simply awful.

First off, I always thought that Burning Man was one of those concepts that was supposed to transcend borders. Isnâ€™t there a camp or something called Burners Without Borders? I donâ€™t want to be reminded of my nationality while at Burning Man, I just want to be a citizen of Black Rock City while I attend.

Second, the international crowd might feel a bit alienated. I know I would personally feel like an outsider if I were not an American. Meeting people from around the world has been an important part of Burning Man for me and I donâ€™t want that to change. What about the Burning Man regional and international events that keep springing up? Why would international events want to aspire to be like Burning Man when the theme is "The American Dream?"

Thirdly, itâ€™s FAR too political! I know the explanation says that the theme is not supposed to be political, but letâ€™s get real, that is a blatant lie. How, with a theme like â€œThe American Dream,â€

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:32 pm

Noj, thank you for not attending BM in 08.. this will make more room for me to spread out and have fun.. also thank you for trying to piss on my parade.. you misguided stream may have found others of your ahh¿ hoping they will follow you.. sit safely behind a computer and take pot shots.. while i m having the time of my life on the playa

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:34 pm

No, then we're also branded as subversives, and America hating.

But... I thought we are "subversives"...?!?

Don't know about "America hating", though. Maybe "America hatting".

B.

ravenluv · Post by **ravenluv** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:39 pm

lurker wrote:I looked at this--

While Christianity has it's own 'radical inclusiveness'--they'll accept anybody who wants to be Christian, what they're 'including' those people in is a refutation of independent freedom.

America, for all it's flaws, even now, in the era of Bush, allows and even encourages independent freedom.

No belief systen is required for acceptence--why, I believe that whatever beliefs one holds, one can find, in America, others who would be compatible.

First of all, thank you very much for reading and responding to my post. Just as Paul Addis (and now, we are assuming, Larry Harvey) have requested, I've been writing more as of late. It's nice to see my words have been read and considered by intelligent people. Please bear in mind that I'm about the biggest flip-flopper you'll ever meet, mainly because I actually seek to understand things from various points of view.

Now then...

Without getting into an argument that will never end (i.e. - whether this is a terrible theme), I will point out that Christianity is actually considerably more inclusive than what you suggest. First of all, it is not constrained by national borders. Second, there is no longer a single power structure which represents the whole system (as opposed to America) and, as such, porn stars can legitimately consider themselves to be Christians. Third, and this argument - as valid as it is - will probably piss off a lot of people, there is a very good chance that America would not be what it is today without the influence of Christianity on the moral, ethical and philosophical development of the people who started the American government, especially regarding the wisdom of sacrificing one's life for a purpose not connected with supporting an existing government, tribe or kingdom.

Granted, other Christians would argue vehemently against allowing certain people to call themselves Christians, and hence the spectre of exclusion in Christianity. Yet, there are no small number of Americans that would argue others claiming to represent American values and would instead call them "whiny liberals", "America haters", "communists", "terrorist sympathizers" and the like. If they had the power, they'd be just as ruthless as any Christian with too much power in rooting out the heretics.

I don't believe there is any grouping of people, whether they are called Americans, Christians, Satanists, gypsies or whatever, who uniformly represent a specific and highly cohesive set of values - even in those places where free expression is not 'allowed'. You give me examples of freedom of speech; I can give you examples of how that freedom doesn't really exist here. You tell me that America is where 'freedom of expression' began, and I'll tell you that 'freedom of expression' began the moment someone decided to express themselves in spite of the consequences. Or I might even say it began when Martin Luther nailed his proclamations to the door of the church. But of course I'd be wrong to say that and would be correctly seen as trying to make Martin Luther, or Christianity, seem more heroic for having 'invented' free expression.

If there was no 'free expression' before America, then how did the Sermon on the Mount take place? It is my understanding that ancient Rome was, for a very long time, rather indifferent to people's personal beliefs and opinions, having correctly concluded that it was a waste of time and effort to persecute people who no one was really listening to anyway.

As I said, such arguments could go on and on. And that was the point I was trying to make. This theme includes a name denoting a particular geographical area and a specific political system. That alone ensures the divisiveness seen in this thread. If you were to tell me what YOUR dream is, then who am I to argue? It's YOUR dream. But if you tell me your dream is an American Dream, or even The American Dream, and I'm an American but it's not my dream, then suddenly we can argue all day about what a real American is, if that's what we want to do.

Of course, we could just say that words are meaningless (American....there are so many meanings that it is, in a sense, meaningless), and that would be fine. Perhaps this theme is, as others have suggested, a way that the powers that be have figured out to continue having themes while at the same time admitting how pointless they are.

Now, I say these things and some will get exactly what I'm saying. Others will feel a bit defensive, believing that I'm knocking down America or poo-pooing the 'great values' of this nation. There have always been theme-haters, but this time around those who hate the theme now get to be blasted by those who love it and - this is perhaps the most interesting outcome of the theme I've seen so far - actually criticized for being America-haters.

I mean, how fun is that?! Don't like the theme? Then you don't love America! Cuz without America, there wouldn't be a Burning Man...

...and so on.

Perhaps this theme can put to rest the idea that BRC is a place where people can put all that aside - even find a welcome respite from it - and just relate to each other as humans. Thanks to this theme, we can now be divided according to our beliefs. Thus, now we are either unimaginative whiners and complainers who hate the theme because we hate America, or we are people who truly 'get it' and can see the awesome brilliance of this theme because we know that America and Burning Man are synonymous.

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"If we could just take a little bit of this out into the world, oh what a world it would be!" - Kernel Killbuck, on Discovery Channel

The Kernel never said what would happen if we took a little of bit of what's outside of BRC and made it the theme.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:13 pm

I mean, how fun is that?! Don't like the theme? Then you don't love America! Cuz without America, there wouldn't be a Burning Man...

It is an interesting theme. Apparently, I have somehow managed to both like it and be an "America Hater"!

BAS (planning on doing a pro-Flag Burning Camp-- which is doomed to failure because no one is listening anyway.)

SFNathan · Post by **SFNathan** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:54 am

Noj:
"this coming year's theme, the American Dream, is simply awful....First off, I always thought that Burning Man was one of those concepts that was supposed to transcend borders.... Second, the international crowd might feel a bit alienated... Thirdly, itâ€™s FAR too political... How can I continue to support this event with a theme like that?"

unjonharley
"thank you for trying to piss on my parade.. sit safely behind a computer and take pot shots.."

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Noj, thank you for your first post and welcome to the thread. The guy who commented immediately after you was on his 3099th post, so if anyone has been sitting safely behind the computer taking pot shots, you can see who it is.

Even 'though I can't stand the American Dream theme, I respect people who support the theme and have tried my best to express myself in a thoughtful and respectful manner. I do share your view that this theme is absolutely awful because it's exclusionary, politically manipulative, and just plain uninspiring as a theme. A LOT of us are very angry with this theme. I'm with you and the 78% of voices on this thread who have been logging on to say that the theme is lousy and needs to go.

Burning Man isn't the Larry Harvey show where the participants are spectators. Burning Man encourages active participation, which we are doing on this thread. If the BMORG is going to live by it's own principles that it says it is about, than they will listen to the overwhelming opinion on this issue.

SFbrothermichael · Post by **SFbrothermichael** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:07 am

Let me make sure I have this right.

IF I create an art piece featuring the Statue of Liberty with fiber optic peace signs in her eyes, holding her torch to illuminate the way for all countries around the globe to unite together in global harmony...
(thereby reinventing the American Dream and rousing up a new kind of patriotism that will suggest that Americans should "let their differences fall away" and form a united front to join the effort to stop global destruction)

Would this be viewed as objectionable by George Bush, Fox news, our international burning brothers and sisters and 80 percent of the people who have responded to the poll??

20% Brother Michael

SFNathan · Post by **SFNathan** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:47 am

"IF I create an art piece featuring the Statue of Liberty with fiber optic peace signs in her eyes, holding her torch to illuminate the way for all countries around the globe to unite together in global harmony... (thereby reinventing the American Dream and rousing up a new kind of patriotism that will suggest that Americans should "let their differences fall away" and form a united front to join the effort to stop global destruction). Would this be viewed as objectionable by George Bush, Fox news, our international burning brothers and sisters and 80 percent of the people who have responded to the poll??"

Michael, that's great that you support the theme and I think that would be a really fun art piece. But if you are concerned about Fox News and Bill O'Reilly's take on Burning Man next year however, they won't be covering the statue of liberty art that you are doing. They will be exploiting whatever looks anti-American, like any flag burnings they can find and put that all over their news stations because this will all be happening a couple months before the presidential election. Remember, just the man burning early this year made national news. Imagine what flag burnings will look like a few months before a presidential election. And remember, it was the issue of flag burning (and the right's push for a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning) that was used as an issue help elect the first George Bush. They will DEFINITELY jump all over this if there is flag burning at Burning Man (which you KNOW there will be given that we burn every kind of art we ever bring to the playa).

And this doesn't even get to the issue of exclusiveness. One of the theme camps that we travel to Burning Man with every year is almost entirely people from London. If the theme were "Global Community" or "Countries and Culture" that didn't prioritize America as the theme, they would feel a lot more comfortable about it. But as the theme stands, they are prepared not to attend next year because they feel the theme is exclusive and suggests that being a Burner is really an American thing, not an international thing. If they decide not to go, I may decide not to go in solidarity with them.

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:40 pm

Of course FOX will be looking at anything that looks anti-American coming out of Burning Man--but they do that every year.

And every year people feel the need, despite the theme, to vent their spleen at America.

So what? If you want Bill O'Reilly to like you stay the hell away from BRC, grab a cell phone, give him a call, and tell him what you're (not)wearing.

Here's my problem. Some fool decided that a) the American Dream was this house/fence/car/2.5 kid comsumerist nightmare and b) that this, despite ANYONE'S personal preferences, was a bad thing and a whole lot of people marched into some kind of braindead lockstep believing it.

The American Dream is not a specific. Ever. It is personal.

The American Dream is NEVER bad(unless you want it that way...but then the bad would be good...making it good...even though it's bad--but that's the whole 'personal' thing)

You can waste your dream spitting at the dreams of others, but why bother? Why wallow in despair when you can build your own utopia...or a cheezy, not quite real, facsimile thereof.

Stop looking at the idea through the lenses you've been given before.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:43 pm

Lights on

it's in the beam

show time

for the American Dream

BigCock · Post by **BigCock** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:45 pm

I don't like political themes, but we crossed that line already. And as long as we have, I think American Dream could be fun! Heck, the Merry Pranksters grabbed those colors and ran with them, right in the middle of the Vietnam War in fact.

I'm already planning my eagle suit. Need to come up with a new name. Hmm, let me see ... I got it! Big Ball'd

flightless · Post by **flightless** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:06 pm

rycaldwell wrote:i heard a 14 year old child ask the other day,
"When did the future change from a promise into a threat?"

hey, a 14-year-old who reads Chuck Palahniuk!

cowboy_logic · Post by **cowboy_logic** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:02 pm

First, I appreciate all the input to this forum. Thank you. I wrote the following last week, and just uploaded it as a petition at [url]http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/change ... ican-dream [/url]. I'm hoping that if a huge number of participants sign it, with your Playa name or otherwise, the Burning Man organizers will change the 2008 theme.

Themes for Burning Man set a tone and ignite the imaginations of some of the most wonderful artists and participants found anywhere in the world. We come to the Playa to celebrate, embracing the theme to create melodies (or at least syncopated anarchy) -- a coordinated dance unreasonably shared by compassionate hooligans hell-bent on radical self-expression. A great theme inspires.

We still enjoy the remnants of 2002, the Floating World. The fish in El-Wire, the Ark of the Nereids, sea creatures breaching the dust, seahorses as mobile lanterns at night. We still grieve the passing of La Contessa, and treasure the first day we saw her bow cut a course through the deep Playa. Great themes raise our expectations, jar our skeptism, and fabricate ideas from dust.

The idea of the American Dream was forged as the United States became an industrial power in the 1920s and 1930s, finally at par with England and Germany, great powers then impoverished by the Great War. In the 1930s the American Dream took shape as the self evident truths of long-dead founders began to flourish. Our democratic melting pot of cultures created a stronger nation that overseas aristocracies and oligarchies. We decided to protect the least strong among us against laissez faire capitalism, and suddenly both the arts and our businesses flourished. Our grandparents dreamt the American Dream, hoping that the morning would find the vestiges of the Great Depression gone. But today we wake up to find the American Dream co-opted by corporate marketing and feverish consumerism, instigating a well-deserved back-lash from our former allies, now tired of relentless cultural imperialism, and of our nation creating disproportionate waste in the process.

For many, Burning Man embodies a place where we can be free of todayâ€™s bad acid-trip version of the American Dream. We arrive, and passing the gated threshold, can leave behind our money, our materialism, our seclusion and disconnection from neighbors, our apathy, moralism, sexual confusion and introversion, and the corporate branding of our lives. Our loudest complaints? When entrails of the current American Dream leak onto the Playa: corporations hoping to show their wares, men hoping to film Burner Girls Gone Wild, attendees trying to keep up with the Jonesâ€™ RV. We rejoice that we can leave nationalism behind for a week. Burner dreams are not divided by borders.

Reclaiming the American Dream should be imperative to all of us who live in America. But that will take a while. And until them, this theme will generate mostly a dense, dark, negative response. It already has. As a great theme can get our voyagers to raise sails and set a barring for the next burn, this yearâ€™s theme will quash good intentions, hopes, and enthusiasm that we might have salvaged after trying to figure out how to make â€œgreenâ€

SFNathan · Post by **SFNathan** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:11 pm

"Of course FOX will be looking at anything that looks anti-American coming out of Burning Man--but they do that every year."

I agree with you that the press loves to write stories about Burning Man drama. For instance, when the Man got Burned early this year (a pretty stupid news story to my mind...) it made national news because the press loves stories that exploit Burning Man.

But I disagree with you that the press regularly portrays Burning Man as Anti-American. I've attended Burning Man 13 times since 1994 and I never remember a story about Burning Man being anti-American. (lots of stories about how dangerous it is, naked hippies, etc, but not Anti-American...) But this theme invites them to write about the politics of Burning Man, and in a Presidential election, they will pick up on it. The presentation in the news by conservative commentators will look something like this: "Burning Man Festival has chosen the theme this year of 'The American Dream', but look how these liberals celebrate the American dream: They burn flags!"

We put our event in a precarious position with this theme, because so many of us are angry at the theme, feeling like the BMORG is not working with the Burner Community, and many of our free speech loving Burners will DEFINITELY be Burning Flags given this theme, and it's an explosive combination for the media just a couple months before a national election. And how do you think the Republican Governor of Nevada is going to deal with that?

This theme is a horrible idea on so many levels, the organizers really should scrap it and go for something more open like "the Global Community" or something more inclusive that can explore international politics without the event having to justify why they are throwing a party about America, and at that party there were lots of flag burnings.

K-mom · Post by **K-mom** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:25 pm

gregginsf wrote:On the suicidally stupid side is any of the (more enlightened in my opinion) art and demonstrations of how hateful and misguided the standard view of patriotism is. This would be all well and good, but how will this play in the controversy-loving corporate press? It will just take one undercover FOX camera man, and BOOM - Burning Man is not only a bunch of fruits and nuts getting freaky in the desert! No, then we're also branded as subversives, and America hating. Causing the fine residents of Nevada to call for "stricter law enforcement" to get rid of the "blame America first" crowd.

So let me ask - are you always afraid to voice your opinion due to popular opinion and the reaction that might come of it? Or just at Burning Man?

Peace, love and playa!

oh, I see

TheFunkHole · Post by **TheFunkHole** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:48 pm

The theme probably won't change, so find a way to make it work for you, ignore it, or forget it. Does it really affect your experience that much? I'd argue the Green Man theme was pretty much a non-event for nearly everyone this year.

It's obviously going to give people some conversational ammo, which is good for making new friends on the playa.

haha, You all seemed so friendly on the playa but so feisty in here, turn that frown upside down, buck up 'lil camper. Can't we all agree to disagree, you're probably just gonna dance, talk, drink, party in the dust a lot and have fun most the time anyway. No?

Plus it will be amusing to watch all the world's flags, a skyscraper, and the man burn up. There must be some symbolism in there somewhere. Can you figure it out?

"Patriotism, it's not just for post-911 warmongers anymore."

Miss BRC 2006 · Post by **Miss BRC 2006** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:57 pm

I love the theme. Weather you guys like it or not? We are in fact in America and are Americans. I think its a great way to express our so-called "freedom". This could be a very powerful experience. So much emotion and hurt came from this country. So many ways to show what makes us, what we are fed to think what are dreams are. I think its going to be very tough this year, because of this theme. But this is our right. People outside of BM already think of us as shit anyways. Fuck them! I think that what BM has provided? Is another dream for us. The way people should be. The way a community should be. How free! We feel for just those 2 weeks to a month. We need to relearn our history. Cause I know most of you have forgotten or just don't know yet. If you love history and know? GREAT!! But there are thousands that don't. We can show, teach and learn. I don't even know the extent of everything. I'm learning everyday. But I was raised by a historian. Who happens to be my father. He was fired in the 70's for teaching what the history books wouldn't tell the students. The truth! I think that this theme will definitely be aimed at our international family as well. Why? Wouldn't it be nice to see what other countries think the "American Dream" is? I think it would be something to see. Either way lets try not to be narrow minded or a jaded American. We could have BUNNIES ONLY bathrooms!! Anyways... Love you all. You all are the dream. XOXO, Miss BRC '06

NomadicSpirit · Post by **NomadicSpirit** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:29 pm

Well, I've never agreed with most themes. And I think that was around the time the Man got put on a high pedestal.

Larry Harvey's ideas are very eloquent, but I'm ready for a more radical ideas that perhaps comes from participants, that perhaps the community has a hand in the decision making process.

I think that "Dream" is less limiting, and more exciting than "American Dream". Lets not forget that people come and do amazing things at BM from all over the World. And telling them that it is an American thing is like shoving agendas down their throat... sure they can just stay home(and not get involved if they're not into it). But I'd prefer they show up and share their dream, whatever that maybe.

Radical expression and radical inclusion is never easy, but in my opinion worth trying.

Space Clown · Post by **Space Clown** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:27 pm

For those of you who don't know, here's a clue. The original American Dream was designed as an export to lure unsuspecting foreigners here for cheap labor. Leaving Ellis Island (a scary fortress if there ever was one) people were surprised to find that the streets were not paved with gold. They were surprised that there were no streets. They were horribly surprised to learn that they were expected to build the streets, for peanuts and disease. The American dream has always been a farce. So why is that a bad theme? Its got America in the title so its exclusionary? Please. This is the first theme where ideas just started to avalanche immediatly. There is tons to work with here folks. Make it fun. Or at least dry yer eyes.

2008 "American Dream" theme

How much do you like the 2008 "American Dream" theme?

how about just DREAMS

Dreams And Nightmares

Is this just stupendously stupid!

Super Lame

A Little Bit of This

Regarding Noj's and Unjon Harley's comments

reinventing the American Dream

as a woman i have no country

Change the 2008 Theme, and Honor the American Dream

Re: Is this just stupendously stupid!

love it!!

I'd like to see a dream that goes above and beyond