Anyone Know of a Christian Theme Camp for BM 2008??

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:06 am

Comp - it wasn't so much the "experience" as it was the anti-experience.

There are many things I want to do (long laundry list). But there is also a long list of things I am not interested in doing even if at the time I want to (because of the experience thing).

It all boils down to this: Because I am a followers of Jesus I know that certain things, while fun in the present (short term), will be detrimental in the long run - so... because this runs through my mind at the time the "experience" is presented - I have the ability to say no to things I might do otherwise (short-term gain but long-term pain).

I didn't know I could do this before I went to BM the first time. It surprised me. I found out I was stronger than I thought.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:16 am

There was Hello Shiva, the golden many-armed vengeance goddess of Hello Kittycats.
And I met a group of hare krishnas that were on the esplanade somehow.
It is unclear whether they were together as a plan or because that was all they did anyway.
They seemed quite restrained, but that was at the end of the event so I don't know how they started.

There was a very weird group that was a prepaid spiritual tour.
They came to a regional, but they were told not to eat or drink anything there or associate with the natives.
I don't know why they were there.

There was a cult there also, that seems very dangerous to me.
I pulled some friends out of there.
Some real textbook brainwashing being attempted.
They masquerade as a chill camp with discussion.

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:35 am

Compman, here's the link to the Burning Man discussion on Father Neo's Blog.

[url]http://fatherneo.com/2006/10/burning-ma ... mments[url]

CompManCB · Post by **CompManCB** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:42 am

Yike, gyre! That's the sort of group I'd avoid at all costs, especially while at Burning Man. I'm glad you had the wherewithall to pull your buddies outta that mess before they gave themselves up!

Hey, DM, are you in law school? I ask because of your sig line at the end of your posts. I'm applying this year, but probably won't get into any of my choice schools.

DM, I totally hear what you're saying and as I stated earlier, it makes perfect sense to me. Only thing, I'm not going to give up smoking the good herb because I see no clear indication in the Bible that it's an evil thing. I like it and it makes me feel closer to God, in a way. Good for meditation and prayer too.

DM, are you going it alone this year or are you part of a theme camp? Just wondering because I think you'd be an interesting person to chat with, given that this is my first BM and you'd be able to give great insight. Seems like we have similar view of this. Maybe, maybe not...so I'd like to learn more from you, the experienced burner.

Hey, thanks for the link, Teo dude...I'll be sure to check it out.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:09 am

The cult was at a regional.
I'd like to think burners would be more savvy.

CompManCB · Post by **CompManCB** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:20 am

Savvy? Isn't excess what going to Burning Man is all about, for most?

Haha...I don't think any fanatic group knows how to be savvy...

Gotta give'm credit for trying though.

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:35 am

You may be very surprised at how many of us there are out there. My husband and I are both ordained, and we camp with an Orthodox priest. (Who has the most bodacious body piercings I have ever seen or even heard of).

I think I would avoid a Christian Theme camp - unless someone has come up with something new, artistic and innovative.

CompManCB · Post by **CompManCB** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:11 pm

Mojo, so being that you're ordained and all, do you abstain from the remedies of all remedies (aka God's good herb)?

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:17 pm

I guess to me ordained doesn't really mean much. I mean, I am ordained and I am an atheist. Univeral Life Church for the win.

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:44 pm

I have known ministers and preachers of many faiths that partake in all sorts of intoxicants. I'll never forget an Irish Episcopalian priest standing with his butt to my fireplace swilling Irish whiskey....

It is as personal a choice as what you think it's ok to wear, to eat, to say, etc.....

As for what I believe, I think people should use their time and energy to get closer to God in whatever manner best suits them and makes sense to them. Some see heaven as the destination after a very narrow path, others see the journey there to be just as important.

In short - it's not a part of my lifestyle but I consider myself liberal and openminded.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:23 pm

gyre wrote:The cult was at a regional.
I'd like to think burners would be more savvy.

You might be disappointed. Burners might be extra vulnerable; a lot of us don't really have our feet on the ground in various ways.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:42 pm

CompManCB wrote:Yike, gyre! That's the sort of group I'd avoid at all costs, especially while at Burning Man. I'm glad you had the wherewithall to pull your buddies outta that mess before they gave themselves up!

Hey, DM, are you in law school? I ask because of your sig line at the end of your posts. I'm applying this year, but probably won't get into any of my choice schools.

DM, I totally hear what you're saying and as I stated earlier, it makes perfect sense to me. Only thing, I'm not going to give up smoking the good herb because I see no clear indication in the Bible that it's an evil thing. I like it and it makes me feel closer to God, in a way. Good for meditation and prayer too.

DM, are you going it alone this year or are you part of a theme camp? Just wondering because I think you'd be an interesting person to chat with, given that this is my first BM and you'd be able to give great insight. Seems like we have similar view of this. Maybe, maybe not...so I'd like to learn more from you, the experienced burner.

Hey, thanks for the link, Teo dude...I'll be sure to check it out.

Comp - email me and I'll tell you all about my law school. You'll flip out once you hear. Just click on my email button, k?

You're going to love this.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:57 am

ah yes, the infamous mail order law degree, i believe you can still use Green Stamps to pay for it...

and i think donna just might have....

now, if she could get a mail order SPEELING degree, i would be impressed.

(my GOD, i am in a motherfucking snarky-ass mood this morning....)

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:20 am

Ah........... simon, your bark is way worse than your bite.

You know, I do think I have already met you on the playa... I remember... your snarky little ass....

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:48 am

pretty cute huh.....44 years and not a SPOT of cellulite...

i owe it all to bad living.

http://www.lux666.com/photos/index.php? ... mFilters=t

click on the ass.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:52 am

Woah! Nice butt tattoo!

That had to hurt.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:52 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
gyre wrote:The cult was at a regional.
I'd like to think burners would be more savvy.
You might be disappointed. Burners might be extra vulnerable; a lot of us don't really have our feet on the ground in various ways.

Fishy, you're so bad.

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:23 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
gyre wrote:The cult was at a regional.
I'd like to think burners would be more savvy.
You might be disappointed. Burners might be extra vulnerable; a lot of us don't really have our feet on the ground in various ways.

Easy for you to say.

Oh, and the use of 'goyim' in the second post indicated that the man was joking. Just think what that would have sounded like if he had used 'christian in that sentence. It's part of a complex jewish sarcasm system that has been set down by the rabbis over the year.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:05 pm

I'll readily tell anyone that I fucking hate Christianity (as well as every other religion), they've caused WAY more harm than good, and I think that anyone who actually believes those ancient bull stories is pretty damn gullible.

But having said that, it's Burning Man and whatever camp theme you want is fine, there are far more ridiculous ones. Hell, there's far more dangerous ones! And that's part of what makes it fun. I'll even cruise you on my Land Yacht and make you margaritas as long as we don't have to talk about goddam God.

Hey, you could weld up little crosses from rebar and use 'em as tent stakes - the cross pieces would be great for getting a grip to pull them back up at teardown time.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:34 pm

I was wondering at what point a simple request for info would devolve into a shit fling against The person's religion.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:13 pm

badger, dont you know?

it's CHOCK full of SATANISTS 'round here...

people with demons, demons with people, demon threesomes, the whole 999.

i believe it was donna who coined it as a satanist event (previously posted)

so, as to how long before we debased jesus and god?

a hot SECOND!

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:30 pm

I fling shit equally at ALL religions, but am quite good friends with their followers anyway.

Dark Star · Post by **Dark Star** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:22 am

"Just watch out for bloody Jesus she will want to have sex with your blowup sex doll...I have pictures. "

Did Jesus have a sex change? Cause I saw him pushing a shopping cart last year at 10:00, wearing a diaper and looking filthy. He kept dropping trash all the way down 10:00. Poor bastard looks like he's hit rock bottom.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:40 am

Jesus stepped up from pushing a cart to driving a Honda, but he didn't tell anyone:
"For I did not speak of my own Accord" John 12:49-50

MozyBonz · Post by **MozyBonz** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:01 am

Dark Star wrote:"Just watch out for bloody Jesus she will want to have sex with your blowup sex doll...I have pictures. "

Did Jesus have a sex change? Cause I saw him pushing a shopping cart last year at 10:00, wearing a diaper and looking filthy. He kept dropping trash all the way down 10:00. Poor bastard looks like he's hit rock bottom.

Well Iâ€™m not sure.

This Bloody Jesus was defiantly a female. And a rather sexy female if not for all the blood and Jesus stuff. It took Gabriel an hour to clean the blood off Burt.

Boy... Jesus sure was bloody~~~

Poor BURT~~he was never the same after that......

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:09 am

I think I see contraption in that photo.

Seems like the Accord was endorsed more explicitly in the old testament.
Can't find it now.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:10 am

I think it said we shall all be in one Accord.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:12 am

No wonder Soichiro was always so sure of himself.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:08 pm

gyre wrote:I think it said we shall all be in one Accord.

I saw jesus and 10 of his buddies all in one Accord the other day in front of home despot. Oh, wait, we are talking about JEE-SUS, not HEY-SUSE.

madmatt · Post by **madmatt** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:27 pm

CompManCB wrote:All who attend the festival with good intentions for fun and a desire for prayer and meditation ...

What is this "festival" of which you speak? I'm intrigued...

CompManCB wrote:...should be accepted equally. Judgements should be set aside or kept to yourself...

Hahaha - welcome to Black Rock City, where even being judgmental is a form of self-expression, and therefore practiced by most and encouraged by many. Isn't that a mind fuck?

My big mind-fuck moment was when I saw the Trash Nazi walking around in a full blown Nazi military uniform, complete with shiny boots and a riding crop, screaming at people to pick up their trash with a German accept. It was totally offensive, but this was one of the only places on earth where this guy could do this little act without getting his teeth kicked in.

Good luck.

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