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Are you coming to Lakes of Fire?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:03 am

Yes
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18%
Yes
6
18%
Of course
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9%
Of course
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D'uh
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D'uh
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Total votes: 34

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Re: MO INFO RE: Tickets

Post by Sail Man » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:28 am

klondike_bar wrote:
Sail Man wrote:
klondike_bar wrote: oh, thats all? thats cheaper then i expected.

in that case, just how difficult is it to bypass the "under 21" armbands?
Ummm, purely for informational purposes, right? :wink:
obviously. I would never consider the use of drugs without parental supervision and my bible. :wink:
Hallelujah! Bless me Mother and Father for I have toked on the bong of Blessed Herb! 8)


:lol:
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Post by klondike_bar » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:54 pm

who knows, i may just look into it. the whole armband thing is mildly discouraging though.

related(-ish) question: when travelling from ontario (drinking age 19) to nevada (drinking age 21), what is the best method for the transportation/aquiration of alcohols?

what happens if a canadian is transporting alcohol that was legally purchased in another country, but is leally underage in the current state?

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Post by Sail Man » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:10 pm

klondike_bar wrote:who knows, i may just look into it. the whole armband thing is mildly discouraging though.

related(-ish) question: when travelling from ontario (drinking age 19) to nevada (drinking age 21), what is the best method for the transportation/aquiration of alcohols?

what happens if a canadian is transporting alcohol that was legally purchased in another country, but is leally underage in the current state?
Your busted! Thats why our 19-21 yr olds go over to Windsor to drink, because of the lower age.
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RE: Wristbands, boozin

Post by Downtown Dave » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:54 am

I would suggest that those who are 21+, and who are coming in from Canada plan on getting their booze stateside, just to make sure you avoid the hassle.

Also - while the organizers don't particularly relish the notion of carding everyone at the front gate, please note that Lakes of Fire is a legal event, and that in order to keep it so, we have legal obligations. We don't make the laws in Michigan, we just have to cover our asses.

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Lakes of Fire's Survival Guide is up and ready.

Post by Downtown Dave » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:14 pm

Check out the Survival Guide page here

"http://www.lakesoffire.org/survival-guide/"

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Ticketing Info

Post by Downtown Dave » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:27 pm

We know that many prospective Lakes of Fire participants have been wondering when tickets will go on sale for Lakes of Fire 2009.

Please rest assured that we're just putting the final touches on a few ticketing and business matters, and that tickets will go on sale, very . . . VERY soon. We are talking about a matter of days here, not weeks.

Once tickets are on sale, we recommend that you purchase them as soon as is possible, for a couple of reasons. First of all, we expect this event to sell out. We have a hard limit of 1,000 participants for the inaugural year of Lakes of Fire, and if you turn out to be the 1,001st person in line, unfortunately you will be S.O.L., i.e. shit outta luck.

The second reason we encourage you to buy tickets as soon as they're on sale is that the first 200 tickets will be available at a cheaper price than the remaining 800. Our first 200 tickets will be sold for $35, and the remaining 800 will sell for $40. Sure it's only five bucks, but why spend more?

Location details will be sent out to everyone as soon as you buy tickets. We are wary of issuing specific location information on-line, because we don't want random people showing up at our gate attempting to enter the event without buying tickets. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THERE WILL BE NO TICKET SALES WHATSOEVER AT THE GATE.

Also, please check out the Survival Guide thoroughly - it's available from the website, and it really is there to help you.

Finally, a pertinent question has been raised regarding flights into the area for Lakes of Fire. If flying is a part of your travel plans, we recommend that you fly into one of the two Chicago-area airports. (Flights to Midway are usually somewhat cheaper, and incidentally Midway is just a little closer to our location than O'Hare.) It's possible to fly into Kalamazoo or Grand Rapids, Michigan, or into South Bend or Gary, Indiana. Although these cities are closer to our location than either of the major Chicago airports, flights to these smaller, regional airports are usually more costly, with the occasional exception of flying into Gary. Flights to Detroit are often reasonably priced as well, but Detroit is considerably further away from our location than is Chicago.

Hope to see you for the weekend of the June 27th!

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Post by Sail Man » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:35 pm

Along the line of alternative travel into the area for LOF, in addition to flying, 1 can also consider Amtrak as well. Kalamazoo has an amtrak station, as well as Grand Rapids. Just another avenue to consider.
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Post by Downtown Dave » Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:41 pm

You betcha!

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Post by Sail Man » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:09 am

Downtown Dave wrote:You betcha!
really? 5 bucks says a drunken dinosaur will topple down a hill :wink:

:lol:
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Post by robotland » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:39 am

Sail Man wrote:
Downtown Dave wrote:You betcha!
really? 5 bucks says a drunken dinosaur will topple down a hill :wink:

:lol:
I wasn't DRUNK!! I was...experiencing an "extinction event"...yeah, that's it!
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OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TICKETS

Post by Downtown Dave » Tue May 05, 2009 11:00 am

Friends, Freaks, Oddballs and Odd-birds:

Great Lakes Experimental Arts, Inc., is totally stoked to announce
that tickets for the inaugural Lakes of Fire, Great Lakes Regional
Burn event will go on sale on Thursday May 7 at 11:00 AM CST / Noon
EST. Please recall that you must purchase your tickets on-line,
through the link on our website. "http://www.lakesoffire.org/tickets/"
There will be absolutely no ticket sales, whatsoever, at the
gate . . . as in zero.

The first 200 tickets will be sold for $35, and the remaining 800 will
go for $40. We expect this event to sell-out, so don't delay!
Everyone 13 and older must purchase a ticket, 12 and under are free.
Lakes of Fire has a hard limit on how many participants we're
accepting for this event. If you happen to be the 1,001st person to
try and get tickets, you will simply be out of luck. And that's no fun
at all. Tickets will remain on sale until 1,000 are sold OR 5:00 PM
Saturday June 13, whichever comes first.

The Great Lakes area's official Burning Man Regional event, Lakes of
Fire is a private event on private land, seeking to bring the artistry
and energy of Black Rock City to the upper Midwest, and Ontario. Our
site is in beautiful southwest Michigan, USA just about 10 miles
outside South Haven. We are approximately 2 hours by car from
Chicago, 3.5 hours from Detroit, 4 hours from Indianapolis or
Milwaukee, and about 7 hours from Toronto. Specific location details
will be sent to those who purchase tickets. Here are our gate hours:

Thursday – June 25th, 2009
12:00 Noon Gate Opens – 12:00 Midnight – Gate closes.

Friday – June 26th, 2009
8:00 AM – 12:00 Midnight – Gate does not close!

Saturday – June 27th, 2009
12:00 Midnight – 6:00 PM – Gate closes.

Participants only! No spectators please. You must be on site by 6:00 PM
to participate in Lakes of Fire. No admittance will be allowed after
this time.

Sunday – June 28th, 2009
All participants except for volunteer organizers, DPW, and Earth
Guardians must be exiting the property at 2:00 P.M. No exceptions.

You can find more details and important information about this event
here: "http://www.lakesoffire.org"

It's critical that you read our Survival Guide as well. You can find
it on-line by clicking on this link: "http://www.lakesoffire.org/
survival-guide/" This important information really is there to help
you. Please read through it thoroughly.

VOLUNTEERING:
Lakes of Fire is a 100% volunteer-run event. That means we need help
with Set-up & Placement, DPW, Rangering, Medical/EMT, Parking,
Greeters & Gate, Earth Guardians, Effigy, Fire performance and more!
So if you want to be a superstar, a rock star and a superhero all at
one time-- you can help us pull off this wonderful zygote of a
festival, and make the first Lakes of Fire an event we can all be
proud of.

Signing up is easy! Just fill out this handy-dandy digital form of
wonder: http://small-url.com/?eE (you can find this link on our
website too http://www.lakesoffire.org/volunteer-ipate/
Questions? e-mail Breedlove our wonderful Volunteer Coordinator:
Breedlove@lakesoffire.org

See you at Lakes of Fire!

Love,

Great Lakes Experimental Arts, Inc.

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Tickets!

Post by Downtown Dave » Thu May 07, 2009 10:05 am

Tickets are now on sale for Lakes of Fire.

Go here: "http://www.lakesoffire.org/tickets/"

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Post by BAS » Sun May 17, 2009 1:29 am

My brother and I have purchased ours online (or, at least, hope we have...) How long before they arrive, or do we have to get them at the gate?
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Post by robotland » Sun May 17, 2009 5:18 am

They should arrive forthwith! See you at Willow Ranch!
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Post by BAS » Sun May 17, 2009 10:57 am

Thanks! It was last weekend (Saturday the 9th) I ordered mine. My brother ordered his a bit earlier, so I will check with him to see if his have arrived yet.
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Post by Downtown Dave » Thu May 21, 2009 8:36 am

The tickets first batch of tickets went out on Tuesday of this week. Thus far only Chicago-environs people have actually received them in the mail but fear not! If you ordered early . . . yours are coming.

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Post by BAS » Thu May 21, 2009 10:22 pm

It arrived Thursday-- so writing a post asking where it was seems to have worked! (There seems to be some universal principle-- complain about something not arriving and it shows up the next day.) :D

Thanks!
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Post by Downtown Dave » Tue May 26, 2009 8:00 am

I love it when that happens.

Incidentally, please recall everyone, that you've got just 19 more days to purchase your Lakes of Fire tickets! Tickets will no longer be available after June 13th!

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Fire Performance @ Lakes of Fire

Post by Downtown Dave » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:43 am

FIRE CONCLAVE– You’ll have the opportunity to participate in our killer Fire Conclave procession and performance before the Effigy burns! If your fire group of at least 3 or more wants to participate, write to Russian Wulfgar of the Fire Safety & Performance Team at fireconclave@lakesoffire.org to apply. We will have a full rehearsal and safety training (non-fire) Friday night. Every group will need its own Fire Safeties with wet towels, etc. At the end of the training, all performers and safeties will get Conclave laminates which will let you enter the Fire Circle Saturday night.

You must be completely sober to participate in any fire performance.

We will be using a safety system for fire performers that follows the national fire codes. You may have already experienced this at the Burning Man fire conclave or other Regional events. The full procedure will be sent out to the accepted fire groups before the event.

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Post by SilverOrange » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:17 pm

Only eight more days to get your Lakes of Fire tickets! lakesoffire.org

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Post by Downtown Dave » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:52 am

Get off the fence! And get on the boat . . . before we burn it.

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Post by Downtown Dave » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:06 am

Just a friendly reminder that there are now just 6 DAYS LEFT to purchase tickets for Lakes of Fire. Our ticket sales close at 5:00 PM Central/6:00 Eastern this Saturday, 6/13/09. If you haven't purchased your tickets already, it's time to get off the fence, and get on the boat . . . before we burn it! Please recall that there will be absolutely no ticket sales at the gate!

Today's informational email covers various aspects of "Leaving"; things you should leave at home, some basics about leaving no trace, and some quick information about Exodus - i.e., leaving the event. Please go over this important information thoroughly!

LEAVE NO TRACE: THE PRIME DIRECTIVE
Leave No Trace is arguably our most cherished principle. In simplest terms, this means that we must leave the site in better condition than we found it, leaving absolutely no evidence of our having been there. Each participant must remove all items they brought with them – including their trash – when they leave the site. We also ask that each participant helps clean the full site by picking up any Matter Out Of Place (MOOP) that they encounter during the event. If you smoke, bring a portable ash tray so that you don't have to drop your butts on the ground. Please bring trash bags and other waste receptacles to take your trash and recycling home with you at the end of the event. During and after the event, our team of awesome Earth Guardians will be staying late to make sure the site is left in better shape then we found it.

Volunteers for Earth Guardian Grounds Patrol Shifts and final Clean Sweep Crew are welcome. Volunteer in advance of the event through LakesofFire.org.

LEAVE AT HOME:
Fireworks - they are illegal in the state of Michigan
Guns or weapons of any kind
Pets - aside from ADA-qualified assistance dogs
Glass - a serious impediment to our Leave No Trace Principle, if it breaks. Cans are preferred. Our venue already has some issues with this problem.
Firewood from outside the state of Michigan - this is also against the law due to bug infestations.
Don't worry, there is plenty of firewood on the site.
Illegal substances, i.e. illicit drugs of any kind.

EXODUS: GET OUTTA HERE!
Lakes of Fire ends at 2:00 PM, Sunday, June 28th. All participants must be packed up (including your trash!) and out of the gate by that time. No exceptions. This allows DPW and EG volunteers to do their job. If you'd like to volunteer, see the volunteers section.

Please adhere to Exodus directions from the Gate/Exodus staff. It is vital that the local community be respected as people leave the event. This means that everything you pack out ends up at your own home, NOT on the side of the road or in private dumpsters!

That's all for now! Stay tuned!

Can't wait to see you at Lakes of Fire!

xo,

Downtown Dave

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Black Rock Beacon - Lakes of Fire edition

Post by Deb Prothero » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:56 pm

Hi y'all

Ordered my ticket a few days ago. Really looking forward to this event.

Taymar (from London) and myself (from St. Thomas) are both staffers on the Black Rock Beacon, the playa newspaper.

We're both going to be at Lakes of Fire so we've decided to make this one of our Regional outreach newspapers this year. We'll be publishing a paper at the event. With my writing and Taymar's great photos, we hope it will be a popular gift.

Can anyone put me in touch with one of the organizers, so I can do an email interview in advance? Feel free to send a PM and I'll pass on my email address to make it easier for doing the interview.

Thanks for all you're doing to make this a great event,
Deb

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Post by Sail Man » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:46 pm

Deb, glad to see that you will be making LoF. Nothing like getting a good dose of warm midwest vibes eh?

Hopefully it will take the edge off of thangs.
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Post by Deb Prothero » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:15 pm

Thanks Sail Man;

Look forward to seeing you and Silver Orange too. Yeah to take my mind off stuff and meet new friends. Collecting hugs when I get there.

I have gifts for you! from Rhino! We've been working on a project online so I'm bringing it to LoF. Will explain once I get there.

I think I'm arriving on Thursday. We'll find each other somehow.

Deb

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Post by BAS » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:36 pm

Sail Man wrote:Another rule of EMS: If you ever go to a call and find the cops laughing on the front lawn...worry!
Remind me to ask about the story behind this part of your sig.file... Unless, of course, I decide to attend undercover or something! :wink: (Our plans aren't really all that firm. Other than agreeing that everyone bringing a stove and no one bringing fuel wouldn't be a good idea, a little bit about who actually has and should bring what, and stopping off on the return trip in Indiana to get fireworks might be cool [or dangerous], we haven't determined what all we are going to bring. Well, there was some talk about White Russians... and I've got vodka!)



All right, that was not very coherent! I need to get to bed!
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Re: Black Rock Beacon - Lakes of Fire edition

Post by SilverOrange » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:39 am

Deb Prothero wrote:Hi y'all

Ordered my ticket a few days ago. Really looking forward to this event.

Taymar (from London) and myself (from St. Thomas) are both staffers on the Black Rock Beacon, the playa newspaper.

We're both going to be at Lakes of Fire so we've decided to make this one of our Regional outreach newspapers this year. We'll be publishing a paper at the event. With my writing and Taymar's great photos, we hope it will be a popular gift.

Can anyone put me in touch with one of the organizers, so I can do an email interview in advance? Feel free to send a PM and I'll pass on my email address to make it easier for doing the interview.

Thanks for all you're doing to make this a great event,
Deb
Hey Deb. You could pm either Downtown Dave (look up), or Robotland (who you can find most often on the Goop thread, and who gave me the sweet sculpture you can see in my avatar for my birthday :D ) Either one would be a good person to talk to although it's getting to be crunch time for LOF.

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Post by Downtown Dave » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:46 pm

Hi LoFers!

Just a reminder that there are just 2 more days to by tickets to Lakes
of Fire. Our ticket sales end THIS SATURDAY at 5:00 Central/6:00
Eastern. If you haven't bought yours already, it's time to get off the
fence and get on the boat!

This informational email covers some basics about bringing kids, being
prepared for a safe and awesome experience, and RAIN!

KIDS: BRING 'EM!
Lakes of Fire is a family event that welcomes participants of all
ages. People under 18 years of age must be accompanied by a 21+ parent or guardian both at entry, as well as at all times during the event.
You are responsible for the welfare of minors in your care. Please be
aware that there may be adult-specific activities or theme camps, and
that grown-ups may not wish to curtail their own free expression to
accommodate your children, or minors in your care.

Minors 12 years old and under will be welcome to join Lakes of Fire
free of charge. Participants 13+ must pay the full ticket price.

For the protection of kids at Lakes of Fire, all parents & guardians
are required to register their kids (or minors in their care) at the
greeter's station. Each minor will be issued an identifying bracelet
linking them to their parents or guardians, and their camp. If you
fail to adequately supervise minors in your care, you will be ejected
from Lakes of Fire, immediately. No exceptions. We are dead serious
about this.

As a volunteeri-pation oriented event, we encourage parents to pool
their resources to create a Kidsville on-site. There will be a
Hushville/Quiet Zone on the Northwest section of our site, and we
encourage parents with kids to camp there, and work together so that
both kids and their parents will have a great experience!

For more tips on how to negotiate bringing your children to a Burning
Man event, please see this informative page on BM.com.
"http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... at_bm.html"

RAIN:
Those of you who have been to Burning Man in Nevada know that rain is
not usually something you have to consider in your preparations.
Please believe us when we tell you that rain is very likely to be a
part of the experience at Lakes of Fire. You need to come prepared
with water-resistant outerwear, and shelter, if you intend to stay
dry. An extra tarp or two for your gear and/or your tent is a very
good idea as well.

In the event of a truly severe storm, we encourage you to find shelter
in away from the trees, in a vehicle, on the communal stage, or in one
of the lower-lying areas of our site.

SAFETY: WATCH IT!
Lakes of Fire is a 74 hour outdoor event. You're expected to rely on
yourself for all of your basic needs. Please refer to the Camping
section in "Basics" of the Survival Guide.

Please prepare for rain, wind and other extreme weather. Failure to do
so may result in way less of a good time.

Beware of toxicodendrons-radicans (Poison ivy). Leaves of three? Let
it be! Poison ivy looks like this:oxicodendrons-radicans are found
mostly, but not exclusively, in the wooded areas of this property.

Unlike the playa, Southwest Michigan is home to a variety of wild
animals. Participants must take measures to ensure their food and
trash are properly secured and stored where unwanted raiders cannot
find a meal, make a mess, or create a health hazard.

If you're severely allergic to bee stings, or bug bites, please make
sure to take the appropriate precautions. A once-over check for ticks
before you leave is a good idea as well.

We encourage self-reliance in all situations, but some medical
precautions are in place, including a volunteer medical team. On-duty
Medical Team members can be identified by their yellow t-shirts.
Additionally, any Ranger will also be able to assist you in obtaining
medical assistance. The Medical Tent will be clearly marked on the
Lakes Of Fire map. You may seek assistance there directly. They will
then be able to facilitate bringing you to the Medical Tent or the
ambulance to you if necessary.

Self-reliance is one of the tenets of Burning Man. Please help us to
help you by bringing a basic first-aid kit with each group, and
knowing how to use the contents. If you have a pre-existing Medical
condition that you feel may become a problem during the event, please
make a campmate(s) aware of it so that they may be of assistance to
the Medical Team. If you have any questions, feel free to approach any
on-duty medical personnel. In the event you need to be evacuated to a
hospital or wish to travel to one yourself, the two facilities in the
area are South Haven Community Hospital in South Haven or Allegan
General Hospital in Allegan. The Medical Team will have location
information on these hospitals.

That's all for now!

See you at Lakes of Fire!

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Post by Rocket75377 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:08 pm

Can'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twait!

Any idea when there's going to be a preliminary placement map?

Don't forget to stop by Dr. Rocket's Bitter Medicinals and get a cure for what ails you (whatever it may be)!

See you on the play- er, ranch.
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Post by Sail Man » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:12 pm

BAS wrote:It arrived Thursday-- so writing a post asking where it was seems to have worked! (There seems to be some universal principle-- complain about something not arriving and it shows up the next day.) :D

Thanks!
Excellent! Then mine should arrive tomorrow :D
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