...sounds like somebody needs to bring a shade structure this year...jaycerochester wrote:When cold, PBR was really quite good -- perhaps even the best among the beers tested. However, when left in the sun for 2 hours, it tastes like a food-engineer's flavor cocktail gone bad.
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I actually had a corona from a can last year. It was the best beer i've ever had but that was prob cause it was ice cold, it was gifted to me, and i had just been caught in a dust storm without any fucking mask. I shit you not, that beer tasted better than anything else ever could.
But i'm not a huge corona fan.
I think i'm gonna hedge my bets and bring half euro beer i know i'll like and half random selection of US canned stuff. As long as i bring far too much of each i'll be fine
But i'm not a huge corona fan.
I think i'm gonna hedge my bets and bring half euro beer i know i'll like and half random selection of US canned stuff. As long as i bring far too much of each i'll be fine
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I've only seen Corona in a can on beach resorts, and it didn't taste anything like American Corona in bottles or the bottled Corona in Mexico.
But I have also been trying to figure out what kind of canned beer to bring out to the playa sinceI always drink beer from a bottle....I'm thinking Mickeys cans...
I wish Sierra Nevada did something in a can, since I live only a couple miles from the brewery, and its hella cheap there.
But I have also been trying to figure out what kind of canned beer to bring out to the playa sinceI always drink beer from a bottle....I'm thinking Mickeys cans...
I wish Sierra Nevada did something in a can, since I live only a couple miles from the brewery, and its hella cheap there.
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Lick'er Hist'tree (best beer for hot climates)
I'm a virgin. I have never been to the playa before, so I really have no experience of what I am talking about here.
However, I know some stuff about the history of the British shipping their beers and hard liquor around the world.
Anyone familiar with '[b]India Pale Ale'[/b]? It's a style of beer making that was specifically designed by the British to keep for long periods of time (shipped by sailboats) in warm, even hot climates such as [b]India[/b]. This was during the 1700's where there was no such thing as refrigeration.
This beer has a bitter, hoppy taste that I personally prefer over other beers, with the exception of a Stout beer such as Guinness. I live in Canada so my favorite beer is Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale.
In the USA, it is sometimes called American India Pale Ale. It isn't as bitter tasting as the British IPA, but it's essentially the same.
A few examples of American IPA are:
Anchor Brewing's Liberty Ale, Lagunitas Brewing's IPA, Victory Brewing Company's HopDevil Ale,Hop Ottin IPA by Anderson Valley Brewing Co., Hoptical Illusion by Blue Point Brewing Co., Two Hearted Ale by Bells Brewery, and Stone Brewing Company's Stone IPA.
In addition to keeping well preserved and still tasting great even when stored at room temperatures for long periods of time...IPA also has a [b]higher alcohol content[/b] than other beers such as a lager.
You can also get double IPA, called IIPA. These are sometimes also called
'Imperial' IPA's. These are associated with the west coast of the USA.
One brand that looks interesting is [b]Russian Imperial Stout[/b], which in addition to tasting great warm and not going flat, has a [b]7% alchohol content[/b].
Ales Brewed in Northern California [b]Lagunitas' Maximus IPA[/b], Bear Republic's Racer 5, as well as others in the San Diego area have taken to the double IPA style, including Stone Brewing Company, Oggi's Brewery, Alpine Brewery, Alesmith, Ballast Brewing Company, and Port Brewing Company, etc. However, others attribute the creation of this style to the Rogue Ales, a microbrewery in Newport, Oregon, and its I2PA beer, brewed in 1990.
Triple IPA's are considered 'Barleywines', which is thick beer with an
8- 12% alcohol content. These would also store well, never go flat and taste great on the playa.
In the USA:
* Old Guardian from Stone Brewing Company
* Monster Ale from Brooklyn Brewery
* Old Horizontal from Victory Brewing Company
* Olde School from Dogfish Head Brewery (15% abv)
* Third Coast Old Ale from Bell's Brewery
* Bigfoot Ale from Sierra Nevada Brewing Company
* Old Crustacean from Rogue Ales
* Old Foghorn from Anchor Brewing Company
[b][u]Mad Dogs in the noon day sun:[/u][/b]
Incidentally, ever hear of the expression 'Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noon-day sun?' That expression came from British soldiers stationed in Africa, who would walk around in the African heat dressed head to toe in their army uniforms when the natives of Africa were wearing loincloths and staying in the shade to escape the heat.
What was their secret? How did the British manage to stay so cool?
[b]Gin and tonic[/b].
The British soldiers would be constantly drinking Gin and tonic to keep themselves cool while stationed on duty in the hot African sun (or in India).
When you drink hard liquor, your skin feels warmer because your blood vessels are opening up, and the heat moves from your body's core to your skin. This is why you hear about alcoholics freezing in snow banks thinking that a bottle of whiskey will warm them.
ANY hard liquor will have the same effect, but for some reason gin has the greatest heat dissipating effect.
The reason why the British drank their Gin with tonic is because the tonic contained Quinine, which is the remedy for malaria contracted through mosquito bites. So long as they were always 'dosed', they would never contract malaria.
Oddly enough, the tonic you use in Gin and tonic even today still contains Quinine, even though someone in a Las Vegas casino pounding back the Gin and tonics has nothing to worry about from contracting malaria from a mosquito bite.
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However, I know some stuff about the history of the British shipping their beers and hard liquor around the world.
Anyone familiar with '[b]India Pale Ale'[/b]? It's a style of beer making that was specifically designed by the British to keep for long periods of time (shipped by sailboats) in warm, even hot climates such as [b]India[/b]. This was during the 1700's where there was no such thing as refrigeration.
This beer has a bitter, hoppy taste that I personally prefer over other beers, with the exception of a Stout beer such as Guinness. I live in Canada so my favorite beer is Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale.
In the USA, it is sometimes called American India Pale Ale. It isn't as bitter tasting as the British IPA, but it's essentially the same.
A few examples of American IPA are:
Anchor Brewing's Liberty Ale, Lagunitas Brewing's IPA, Victory Brewing Company's HopDevil Ale,Hop Ottin IPA by Anderson Valley Brewing Co., Hoptical Illusion by Blue Point Brewing Co., Two Hearted Ale by Bells Brewery, and Stone Brewing Company's Stone IPA.
In addition to keeping well preserved and still tasting great even when stored at room temperatures for long periods of time...IPA also has a [b]higher alcohol content[/b] than other beers such as a lager.
You can also get double IPA, called IIPA. These are sometimes also called
'Imperial' IPA's. These are associated with the west coast of the USA.
One brand that looks interesting is [b]Russian Imperial Stout[/b], which in addition to tasting great warm and not going flat, has a [b]7% alchohol content[/b].
Ales Brewed in Northern California [b]Lagunitas' Maximus IPA[/b], Bear Republic's Racer 5, as well as others in the San Diego area have taken to the double IPA style, including Stone Brewing Company, Oggi's Brewery, Alpine Brewery, Alesmith, Ballast Brewing Company, and Port Brewing Company, etc. However, others attribute the creation of this style to the Rogue Ales, a microbrewery in Newport, Oregon, and its I2PA beer, brewed in 1990.
Triple IPA's are considered 'Barleywines', which is thick beer with an
8- 12% alcohol content. These would also store well, never go flat and taste great on the playa.
In the USA:
* Old Guardian from Stone Brewing Company
* Monster Ale from Brooklyn Brewery
* Old Horizontal from Victory Brewing Company
* Olde School from Dogfish Head Brewery (15% abv)
* Third Coast Old Ale from Bell's Brewery
* Bigfoot Ale from Sierra Nevada Brewing Company
* Old Crustacean from Rogue Ales
* Old Foghorn from Anchor Brewing Company
[b][u]Mad Dogs in the noon day sun:[/u][/b]
Incidentally, ever hear of the expression 'Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noon-day sun?' That expression came from British soldiers stationed in Africa, who would walk around in the African heat dressed head to toe in their army uniforms when the natives of Africa were wearing loincloths and staying in the shade to escape the heat.
What was their secret? How did the British manage to stay so cool?
[b]Gin and tonic[/b].
The British soldiers would be constantly drinking Gin and tonic to keep themselves cool while stationed on duty in the hot African sun (or in India).
When you drink hard liquor, your skin feels warmer because your blood vessels are opening up, and the heat moves from your body's core to your skin. This is why you hear about alcoholics freezing in snow banks thinking that a bottle of whiskey will warm them.
ANY hard liquor will have the same effect, but for some reason gin has the greatest heat dissipating effect.
The reason why the British drank their Gin with tonic is because the tonic contained Quinine, which is the remedy for malaria contracted through mosquito bites. So long as they were always 'dosed', they would never contract malaria.
Oddly enough, the tonic you use in Gin and tonic even today still contains Quinine, even though someone in a Las Vegas casino pounding back the Gin and tonics has nothing to worry about from contracting malaria from a mosquito bite.
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The question was about canned American beer. If you want something brown to sip, bring bourbon -- it's much less fragile than bottled ale, and you won't bloat up and fart like a cow inside your tent.
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FYI PBR=Dookie
It is made under contract by miller. The company does not exist except to market cheap crap to stupid hipsters who think its cool. Anti-branding or sub marketing or something. Its OK as long as you recognize you are being duped, but shit, why not drink Schaeffer or something even cheaper?
Life is too short to drink cheap beer imho.
Life is too short to drink cheap beer imho.
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Best Canned beer
Best [b]CANNED[/b] beer. Sorry, that slipped my mind.
Is there a U-Brew it place around where you are...or even in a town you might be passing through? Often these guys are amateur brewmasters themselves and will sell you the beer they make for cheap...although you have to CAN IT YOURSELF.
Find a U-Brew-it place in the phone book, and ask if they have anything like an India Pale Ale.
Or, you might be able to get a keg of India Pale Ale from one of the Breweries that makes it, take it home and can it yourself.
My Dad puts his beer in cans himself at one of these place not because he likes it in cans, but because he saves money by doing it this way.
Is there a U-Brew it place around where you are...or even in a town you might be passing through? Often these guys are amateur brewmasters themselves and will sell you the beer they make for cheap...although you have to CAN IT YOURSELF.
Find a U-Brew-it place in the phone book, and ask if they have anything like an India Pale Ale.
Or, you might be able to get a keg of India Pale Ale from one of the Breweries that makes it, take it home and can it yourself.
My Dad puts his beer in cans himself at one of these place not because he likes it in cans, but because he saves money by doing it this way.
See you there!
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It's not just that your canned 'Merkin lagers are better for slamming in great quantities in the desert, it's the logistics of chilling & transporting delicate perishable stuff in glass bottles, and the consequences of idiots dropping bottles & bottle caps everywhere. They break in transport, they break on the playa, and whereas other people's beer cans left in your camp or scattered on the playa are no big deal to clean up, bottles are a huge hassle.
But the beer snob arguments come & go every year, so carry on.
But the beer snob arguments come & go every year, so carry on.
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Actually, why not just get a keg of India Pale Ale from the local Microbrewery? I will be passing through Boise, Idaho and found a brewery that makes an IPA called 'Highland Hollows Hippie Shake'. Likely I will just get a keg of it and not have to worry about all the cans, etc.
See you there!
brickmaster wrote:Thanks for the responses. I posted the question, went down to the hotel bar and had myself dinner and a beer and came back to many answers :)
I have this thing against Irish people drinking Guinness abroad so thats out.
Orchid, the only reason I'm asking is that i'm flying in on the 23rd and am the only driver in the group so prob won't get any time to taste whats on offer.
Phil, I respectfully disagree. There are many fine American beers, anything from fat tire, sierra nevada, pyramid, even Sam Adams (black lager, winter ale etc). Problem is that they are all in bottles.
Thanks token, I think i'll google my through your list and see what I think. The names sound promising as I love ales and dark beers (I had an Erdinger Dunkel with dinner)
smell ya all later :)
we are flying in on the 23rd as well... from dublin, where are you flying through?
i know you cant be one of the lads from my group as there are three drivers and then me :D :D
provisional licenses dont work in the usa so maybe that means i will just have to get tanked up in the back of the rv haha
we are flying into vegas
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Bob's right about clean up.
I wonder where Olympia would score on the list of unpalatable canned USA beers.
So what's the best hard liquor to ship a citizen of the empire on which the sun never sets home in a cask of? Or should I ask that in the Bomb Bay Tea Company thread?
I wonder where Olympia would score on the list of unpalatable canned USA beers.
So what's the best hard liquor to ship a citizen of the empire on which the sun never sets home in a cask of? Or should I ask that in the Bomb Bay Tea Company thread?
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
Never been to BM this will be my first time but I love american beer :D My first choice for canned beer would be Coors Light (I know it tastes better in a bottle) but you have to keep it cold at all times to preserve its taste.
I will be driving in from Texas and dont plan on buying ice until I get to Reno so I will probably take Miller High Life or Natural Light both of whom I have tested in the West Texas desert where temperature can get up to 116 degrees and they have pretty much proven themselves aside from the fact that they are friendly on the pocketbook... :)
I will be driving in from Texas and dont plan on buying ice until I get to Reno so I will probably take Miller High Life or Natural Light both of whom I have tested in the West Texas desert where temperature can get up to 116 degrees and they have pretty much proven themselves aside from the fact that they are friendly on the pocketbook... :)
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I'm sorry Terlin but you just named 3 of the worst/bland tasting macro beers in existance. I don't doubt that they taste good in the heat of the dessert but so would cold cats piss. Beers like that are why I used to think Americans couldn't brew.
But on the subject of good american beer, my local off licence (Liqor store) now stocks the full selection from sierra nevada. However even with the good exchange rate they still cost $31.50 a 6 pack!
Red arrow, we're flying to SF via london on the 23. Leaving at 6.45am me thinks. We drove from LV to reno last year. It'll take way longer than you think. The scenary is nice at times but the towns are shit till you pass mammoth/ mono lake. Try and pass mono lake area during daylight. the area is beautiful. Basically you will be driving through the arse end of america before that. Don't speed! We encountered many many cops waiting next to speed signs at the edge of town.
But on the subject of good american beer, my local off licence (Liqor store) now stocks the full selection from sierra nevada. However even with the good exchange rate they still cost $31.50 a 6 pack!
Red arrow, we're flying to SF via london on the 23. Leaving at 6.45am me thinks. We drove from LV to reno last year. It'll take way longer than you think. The scenary is nice at times but the towns are shit till you pass mammoth/ mono lake. Try and pass mono lake area during daylight. the area is beautiful. Basically you will be driving through the arse end of america before that. Don't speed! We encountered many many cops waiting next to speed signs at the edge of town.
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Oh screw American beer. Go to Trader Joe's and buy the 1/2 liter cans of whatever the hell they have on sale from Germany and Holland (Pete's Brand, Henniger, etc.). You'll look like an elitist certainly, but they tend to be cheaper than Buttwiper and when you're hot and drunk and (for some of you quite possibly) stoned who gives a shit? A cold can of beer is a cold can of beer.
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Just to cover other's misconceptions, Corona is available in cans,
at least in Washington state it is, I buy it at any Albertson's or Wallmarxist and it tastes exactly like corona in bottles.
It is , however, more expensive than the bottles....?
at least in Washington state it is, I buy it at any Albertson's or Wallmarxist and it tastes exactly like corona in bottles.
It is , however, more expensive than the bottles....?
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You'd have to bring them from WI, MN or Chicagoland at this point, I think.
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