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Cook Stoves?

Post by GreenBurner » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:04 pm

Any recommendations on camp cook stoves?

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Post by ygmir » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:08 pm

coleman propane with adapter to use the larger, cheaper propane containers.........

or, a burning stick.........
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Post by Absolut Jeenyus » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:15 pm

We got one of these...
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One of these...
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Two of these...
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And the newest addition...
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Post by gyre » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:21 am

I have a triple burner coleman with a handle on the case.
Anyone else have one like that?
I've never seen another one.

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Post by ygmir » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:54 am

nope, you got the only one........

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Post by gyre » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:07 am

Looking around again, I found a 426D.
Mine is propane only, but it seems to be the same.
Last I looked, I couldn't find any.
Maybe they are discontinued?
Seems like a nice stove.

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Re: Cook Stoves?

Post by phil » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:09 am

GreenBurner wrote:Any recommendations on camp cook stoves?
Louise and I camp more than some people - a few times a year - and we're in somewhat harsher locations - Burning Man, Death Valley. I started out with cheap stoves, but the rubber failed - the hoses leaked, the rubber gaskets leaked. In the olden days, you get could replacements parts, but now most companies sell the whole stove made in China and there are no parts. So I bought expensive stoves, assuming they'd last longer. Nope. The rubber parts still fail - playa powder and sun are harsh on flexible parts. So I went back to cheap crap, since I have to replace the whole shebang every 4 or 5 years. And I take two stoves. I have the classic 2-burner propane burning stove from different manufacturers. I buy them on sale at local stores after the season ends.

Here's what I look for: Something I can easily clean. That's it. If the stove has a base and a grill, that's all I want.

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I've bought models similar to this stove, and the scrambled eggs ran off the griddle and down under the chrome into the base. The noodles boiled over and ran under the chrome into the base. Whatever I cooked seemed to end up down there in the innards where I couldn't get to it. Yuck. Then it starts leaking out of the base. Real yuck.

So my personal preference is for propane stoves similar to this gasoline model:
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After it cools, I lift up the grill, wipe out the slopped over crud, and I'm good to go. Just got back from camping last weekend, and I'm set to give the stove a good cleaning before BM.

I'm never on a level surface, I'm not a careful cook, and I slosh and spill. Your mileage will vary, as you see from the lovely photos posted by others. If you're a heavy-duty cook with big pots and lots of people you're cooking for, I'd suggest one of these:
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One major issue is wind. You'll eventually face cooking in the wind, and I have no idea how well the commercial stoves get heat to your pans during high winds.

When you pick a stove, consider how you'll support it, remember it's not level on the playa, keep in mind the wind, and give some thought to your fuel and pressurizing the fuel (if necessary). (How long do you want to spend waiting for your food to heat up?)

Good luck and have fun.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:10 am

All right, camp stove geeks, butane or propane?

Let's hear it.

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Post by Token » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:19 am

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... And unleaded gasoline.

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Post by gyre » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:29 am

The triple burner appears to be dual propane or gas.

Butane for backpacking.
Propane for luxury.

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Post by LostinReno » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:21 pm

We camp alot, it's a grill more than a stove but they are easy to clean and we love it! We've had it for almost 3 years with no problems, it's worth paying the extra bucks to buy the extra griddle and grill so you can have both sides going as one grill/griddle. It cooks up some mean bacon! :D
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Post by Elorrum » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:53 pm

propane vs. butane. above 40 degrees it doesn't matter. Below that, propane wins.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:53 pm

Thanks!

40 degrees Fahrenheit is too cold for cooking. I expect my stove to be at least 200 degree F! ;)

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Post by Jiva » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:57 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:All right, camp stove geeks, butane or propane?
"Butane is a bastard gas."
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Post by gyre » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:20 pm

There are exotic alternatives to butane.

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Post by gyre » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:22 pm

^ Is that Harold Lloyd up there?

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Post by muchas_cabras » Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:07 am

I've had a Coleman 413G (white gas) since the 70's and it's been virtually indestructable but after 30+ years, dealing with the fuel had gotten to be a pain. I was so tired of pouring and pumping that I decided to go propane. I was at Walmart checking out the new stoves when I noticed this hanging on a peg:

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It's a Century Gasoline to Propane Stove Converter.
Costs about 18 bucks and man does it work great.

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Amazon has 'em also...
http://tinyurl.com/nk3oep

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:31 am

I had one of those. It nearly blew up on me, torched half of my structure, gave me burns all over my hands.

Hence butane, a bastard gas for a bastard barbarian.

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Post by gyre » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:44 am

Coleman makes propane/gas versions.
I think mine is one though all I have is the propane setup.

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Post by CapSmashy » Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:57 pm

Absolut Jeenyus wrote:We got one of these...
And the newest addition...
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:shock: ....must .....have .....it
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Post by Sail Man » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:08 pm

ygmir wrote:coleman propane with adapter to use the larger, cheaper propane containers.........

or, a burning stick.........
Why, that sounds perfectly Barbaric. Which means UD would love it :D
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Post by Sail Man » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:14 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:All right, camp stove geeks, butane or propane?

Let's hear it.
Napalm.


But when Wally World is out of that I prefer Propane.
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Post by Oldguy » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:43 pm

I use a backpackers butane stove with a small canister for heating my coffee water in the morning. I use Sterno cans ( jellied gas, napalm ) to heat soup can low and slow at night. I use the dashboard to heat soup during the day. I've got a hotpot and a hotplate to use with my generator. I've got a 12v plug coffee warmer and a 12v frig in the car. I've got two Coleman two burner whitegas stoves I always take but have yet to actually use. I gots stuff.

Now everbody march to the door, everybody's got- ta- go.

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Post by muchas_cabras » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:11 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:I had one of those. It nearly blew up on me, torched half of my structure, gave me burns all over my hands.

Hence butane, a bastard gas for a bastard barbarian.
Seriously? I've read a lotta your posts so I'm not really sure whether yer BS'ing me or not. Nearly blew up? or overheated and had a massive leak? Was it the converter or the pop off valve on the propane bottle?


Speaking of butane, it actually has more energy per lb. than propane and those lil' japanese style portable butane stoves are REALLY cool....

...until they explode http://tinyurl.com/ledjmk

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Post by phil » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:36 pm

Sail Man wrote:
Ugly Dougly wrote:All right, camp stove geeks, butane or propane?

Let's hear it.
Napalm.
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Post by Elorrum » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:49 pm

lol Oldguy "gots stuff" I hear that. Somebody gave me an old white gas backpacker stove about the size of an old hamburger box, when they put hamburgers in those styrofoam boxes. It's got a pretty brass fuel tank. I've never used that one. I have a couple of butane stoves, and a brass alcohol burner that I really like since it's quiet. It came with a swedish army cookset that has a wind barrier base, and two pots, one is the lid on the larger one, or it can be turned over like a double boiler. I can heat soup on top, and boil water for tea underneath. or close it up and carry it by the bail handle to a pot-luck. It is so basic, and reliable, I think that one is my favorite.

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Post by Rommel » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:13 pm

I've been using one of those, or the like for the past few years.
I get the wind protection from the Coleman stove, and the ease
of use with LPG conversion. I sling coffee for hours at a time,
and combination is by far the most effective... especially in wind.

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[quote="muchas_cabras"]I've had a Coleman 413G (white gas) since the 70's and it's been virtually indestructable but after 30+ years, dealing with the fuel had gotten to be a pain. I was so tired of pouring and pumping that I decided to go propane. I was at Walmart checking out the new stoves when I noticed this hanging on a peg:

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/mudbug65/tamales.jpg[/img]

It's a Century Gasoline to Propane Stove Converter.
Costs about 18 bucks and man does it work great.

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/mudbug65/tamales2.jpg[/img]


Amazon has 'em also...
http://tinyurl.com/nk3oep

.[/quote]
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Post by Rommel » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:13 pm

I've been using one of those, or the like for the past few years.
I get the wind protection from the Coleman stove, and the ease
of use with LPG conversion. I sling coffee for hours at a time,
and combination is by far the most effective... especially in wind.

Rommel
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[quote="muchas_cabras"]I've had a Coleman 413G (white gas) since the 70's and it's been virtually indestructable but after 30+ years, dealing with the fuel had gotten to be a pain. I was so tired of pouring and pumping that I decided to go propane. I was at Walmart checking out the new stoves when I noticed this hanging on a peg:

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/mudbug65/tamales.jpg[/img]

It's a Century Gasoline to Propane Stove Converter.
Costs about 18 bucks and man does it work great.

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/mudbug65/tamales2.jpg[/img]


Amazon has 'em also...
http://tinyurl.com/nk3oep

.[/quote]
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:55 am

Don't forget to bring a charcoal grill as well.

Is your typical Weber going to be a tip-and-burn hazard? Does it make sense to stake it down?

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