Im a new burner.. Need some input!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:52 am

Um... From what I understand, that water isn't just out of the hot springs... You wouldn't catch me taking a shower in treated effluent, but that's my choice...

Why do you think the truck chasers get giggled at by those in the know?

Naw, GO AHEAD!!! Chase them trucks!

With that thought, I remain,
assuring your doom...
bb

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:54 am

Where did you hear they treated it?

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:40 am

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:Um... From what I understand, that water isn't just out of the hot springs... You wouldn't catch me taking a shower in treated effluent, but that's my choice...

Why do you think the truck chasers get giggled at by those in the know?

Naw, GO AHEAD!!! Chase them trucks!

With that thought, I remain,
assuring your doom...
bb

Hi Sue

I think this is an excellent subject. Lets talk and see if there is a problem or not.

I don't wish to argue for the sake of argument and perhaps somehow things have changed, but here is my experience. In years past I have been soaking in the hot springs when the trucks would come and fill up. They use a lower pond to get the water from and the water level never went down an inch in the one we were in. Actually a really amazing thing to do was to be out on the playa near the entrance to the frog pond and watch the water trucks come racing across the desert towards you. The roar of the motors and the hug clouds of dust with just maybe a glint of metal showing at the front of this oncoming cloud. Really a trippy neat thing to see (real mad max). A lot of people used to go and soak at night also.

So, unless things have changed in the last year or two, all the water that is dumped on the roads of burning man comes from the pond and there is nothing added or any kind of treatment performed.

And whenever I hear someone giggling at BM I figure they are on shrooms.

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:47 am

Whomever started the idea of the water being treated has rocks in their head. It would take extra money and a lot more overhead (ie: facilities) to treat that water....and a review of the afterburn reports and other sources shows no such expenditure.

Post by **mdmf007** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:20 pm

Water is definately not treated -

BLM even stiupulates no additives be added to the water. It is in the permit.

later

skygod · Post by **skygod** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:29 pm

I'm going to keep doing it until it makes me sick, just like all the other fun things in my life.

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:49 pm

if you do shower via water truck, think about wearing shoes or at least have a bucket of water handy to rinse your feet.
wet playa on bare feet = playa foot

its really hard to get someone to suck on your toes when they're cracked and bleeding....

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:56 pm

Archantael wrote:Whomever started the idea of the water being treated has rocks in their head. It would take extra money and a lot more overhead (ie: facilities) to treat that water....and a review of the afterburn reports and other sources shows no such expenditure.

We don't treat the effluent - the SD does. We just get the used water from them...

Unless I was deliberately misled by a bunch of people at different levels at different times, the hot springs is not the only place they get the water. Note I mentioned effluent - which is not the same a spring water. Part of lessening the impact to the spring complex...

Hell, I could be wrong, too. ;)

bb

Gizmo · Post by **Gizmo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:58 pm

learned this trick from a long time burner.
You can shower with a one gallon jug of water. Just don't put a lot of soap
on your hair. Dr. Bronners pepermint soap is good. Practice this at home before you go.

Lord Of Ruin · Post by **Lord Of Ruin** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:28 pm

[quote="AntiM"][quote="blyslv"]
The coffee in the Center Camp Cafe(tm) tastes like your high school wrestling coach's sock.
[/quote]

My mind boggles at the many ways one might know what their high school wrestling coach's sock might taste like.

I am so glad I dropped out.[/quote]

Thank God.....first time I read it too fast and didn't think he wrote "sock."

LoR

skygod · Post by **skygod** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:00 pm

Center Camp is not really about the coffee. It would have to be pretty bad coffee to keep me away.
It's The CAMP! In the CENTER!

Mushroom · Post by **Mushroom** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:10 am

I thought id just share my 2 cents... I used to have degus (they're little rodents from south america) and do you know what they used to get clean? SAND! yup thats right the sand will actually help you stay clean, it absorbs the oils then falls off when theres nothing left to absorb.

And another thing you're just showering in the water not drinking it, ever swam in a lake? or the ocean? guess what they don't treat those.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:08 am

theres NO sand on the playa!

Alkalie SILT!

yeah, its fun to look like a tribe person after the wind storms, but I will tell ya' after about an hour, your skin will begin to itch and burn.
Alkalies ph is apprx +15.3
Human skin depending on if your taking suppliments is around the 5-8 ph

If your taking Vit C its even lower....

-1,2,3,4,5,...-6,7,8+......+9,10,11,12,13,14,15~~~>
...acidic.......normal.......alkaline.

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:47 am

Think of the playa as an extremely dusty concrete slab which is of variable hardness, with dust-filled potholes in places.

Mushroom · Post by **Mushroom** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:25 am

[quote="pinemom"]theres NO sand on the playa!

Alkalie SILT!

yeah, its fun to look like a tribe person after the wind storms, but I will tell ya' after about an hour, your skin will begin to itch and burn.
Alkalies ph is apprx +15.3
Human skin depending on if your taking suppliments is around the 5-8 ph

If your taking Vit C its even lower....

-1,2,3,4,5,...-6,7,8+......+9,10,11,12,13,14,15~~~>
...acidic.......normal.......alkaline.[/quote]

yea I figured that part out after I posted that :oops:
but heres a question I have a lot of problems taking Vit C it leaves me with a swollen throat and hives could that create a problem or did I jsut read that wrong.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:53 am

AntiM wrote:Think of the playa as an extremely dusty concrete slab which is of variable hardness, with dust-filled potholes in places.

Awww... now you've made me homesick again!!!

Mushroom wrote:but heres a question I have a lot of problems taking Vit C it leaves me with a swollen throat and hives could that create a problem or did I jsut read that wrong.

Vit C makes your body more acidic. The Playa is Alkaline. Opposite ends of the scale. Prolly the worst thing you'll have to worry about is Playa Foot, which is preventable if you take adequate precautions.

bb

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:43 am

AntiM wrote:Think of the playa as an extremely dusty concrete slab which is of variable hardness, with dust-filled potholes in places.

...Which makes it superior to most secondary and some primary Michigan roads.

Suggested Water-Truck Safety Protocol: Head DOWN, mouth CLOSED, golf shoes (or crampons) ON.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:45 am

You know, weirdly, I didn't get playa foot until after I left Black Rock. Healed up pretty quickly and easily over the next week or so, and didn't really bother me. More like a case of athlete's foot or something.

B.

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:04 am

I live in Utah, so I get playa foot over the winter.

skygod · Post by **skygod** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:20 am

WARNING!
Before you start stripping and chasing the water truck, you MUST have a foot washing/moisturizing station already prepared and waiting for your return.
I would say my feet gain at least a pound of weight for every ten feet of distance I end up away from camp, running back , naked and slick, with gigantanormous playa coated hooves that grow larger with each step.
And don't fall. The thought of falling down on playa silt while wet is too horrible to contemplate.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:08 am

Yep, your greywater isn't so heavy if you let it evaporate first.