Shade fabric HELP

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Shade fabric HELP

Post by moon_rider » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:52 pm

Burners need you help please. I going want to build shade structure and can't find where to buy this kind of fabric. If anyone knows can you please send me link or what the actual name of this product is? I have attached a picture.

Thank you so much. BM2020
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by Ratty » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:03 pm

That looks like shade cloth from the garden department. It comes in different weights and various amounts of shade from it.
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by Jackass » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:49 pm

You're going to want something with a little more weave than that. A camp mate brings that stuff and while it's better than being in direct sun light, it's not by much.
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by some seeing eye » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:14 pm

"Shade cloth" is varied.
The most common and cheapest is polyester or "knitted" shade cloth - your picture. It comes in colors and % shade.

The high tech shade cloth is Aluminet, as far as we can tell from a patented maker in Israel. The warp is a twisted synthetic fiber with aluminized mylar like Christmas tinsel and a synthetic weft. It is also in % shade.

Aluminet is stretchy and poly shade cloth doesn't stretch much.

Poly shade cloth can sometimes be found on Craigs from farmers and greenhouses. Burners sometimes sell their Aluminet. New, poly starts in the $.10/sf+ and Aluminet in the $.30/sf+ range.

You photo shows it edged and grommeted, that costs extra and is recommended, because shade cloth catches wind and has to be secured.

You can search my posts for preferred sources, but I've heard what's available in Canada and tariffs may influence the price.

Some years arctic camouflage or snow camo net with wind cutouts has been popular, but availability varies. Surplus desert camo net is plentiful for the wrong reasons.
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Post by Popeye » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:07 pm

Check https://www.greenhousemegastore.com/cov ... ade-cloth/

If you use the search function at the top of this page or google Eplaya: shade cloth you will find more than you want to know on the subject.
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Post by Papa Bear » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:52 pm

some seeing eye wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:14 pm

The high tech shade cloth is Aluminet, as far as we can tell from a patented maker in Israel.
If I'm not mistaken, that patent expired a few years ago, though the name Aluminet is still trademarked. You can now buy the same stuff from other makers, just look for names like "Alumimesh".

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Post by motskyroonmatick » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:41 pm

I've ordered from Gothic Arches Greenhouses with much success. You definitely want Knit Shade Cloth as it does not unravel as far if it gets a hole in it. You want folded and taped edges and grommets every 2 feet as well as 2 grommets 4 inched from each corner. They are familiar with burners and often offer a burner discount. Try your best to get 80% or above as far as shade number. Below 70% the benefits of shade become much less notable. Aluminet in my experience is the very best you can get.
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by Canoe » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:22 pm

Don't forget that shade cloth makes a nice wind wall too. It shades/reflects the heat on the other side away, and all the little holes mean that it will release air pressure through them too.
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Post by DoctorIknow » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:27 am

Canoe wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:22 pm
Don't forget that shade cloth makes a nice wind wall too. .
80% and above shade material can be great to block playa dust blowing straight into your tent entrance. Everyone wants to have wind protection around their home, be it vehicles or larger dwellings, but many times one has no ability to set up in perfect relationship to prevailing winds.

I have a conduit shade structure, and have a dense black mesh shade cloth going at an angle from the conduit to about 6' from the tent entrance, and lagscrew the edge right against the playa, to mitigate that surface playa dust from sneaking under the mesh.

I doubt my tent would have survived some major wind carnage in past years without shade on all sides, as the concept of prevailing winds being "prevailing" isn't the way it is in many whiteout windstorms.

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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by kimbersykes » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:47 pm

Try these guys. We ordered over 40 units of the 10 x 12 and we're extremely pleased with the heat resistance and shade. Much cheaper than Aluminet.

https://shadeclothstore.com/product/silvishade-80/

Note we needed to run a line of thin rope diagonally from corner to corner of the shade to stop the sag of the fabric which worked well. Let me know if you want more details or photos of our setup.
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by Canoe » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:51 pm

kimbersykes wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:47 pm
... Let me know if you want more details or photos of our setup.
Please!
From a distance showing a whole tarp, and any closer that may show edging or grommets, etc..
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by kimbersykes » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:17 am

Hi Canoe,

This photo shows the SilviShade and how we 'managed' the sag with the diagonal rope. https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb7f8jc1fxnrf ... 0.jpg?dl=0

The shade cloth came edged with grommets every two feet. We purchased the ball bungees from Shade Cloth Store also but if ordering again we would go for the smallest length bungee as we had to triple over the bungees to get them as taught as possible.

We also added sides bungeed together stretched out to the full length of the shade and lag screwed into the ground. We also had 60W solar panels powering the swamp coolers that Will is kindly cleaning for us in this photo

https://www.dropbox.com/s/84aby9l9khq6g ... 4.jpg?dl=0

I am in the process of writing up a How To with everything that we did last year as we thought it was a great success and have had some inquires from neighbours however it might be a few months before that is complete. I will share on this thread once it is.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by Canoe » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:08 am

Thanks!
Looks good too.

From the small patches on the ground with direct sunlight, one can get an idea how much sun it's blocking.

Any MOOP from it in the winds?
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Post by ken » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:17 am

We bought 75%, 80% and 90% from the greenhouse mega store that Popeye mentions above. I wouldn't waste my money on anything below 90% ever again. Noticeable difference. We had the 75% on 1/2 of our large monkey hut and 90% on the other. Everyone congregates under the 90.

Greenhouse mega store has at predetermined sizes with grommets etc already installed, or you can order custom sizes and they will grommet for you.

Cheaper than aluminet and was cooler than our neighbors aluminet. They ended up hanging out under our shade instead of their own. Been using it 8 years and still going strong.
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by ken » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:20 am

Also, put on sunscreen even if you are hanging out under the shade. You still sunburn under there. It doesn't block everything.
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Post by lucky420 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:57 am

ken wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:20 am
Also, put on sunscreen even if you are hanging out under the shade. You still sunburn under there. It doesn't block everything.
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Re: Shade fabric HELP

Post by kimbersykes » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:44 pm

Canoe wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:08 am
Any MOOP from it in the winds?
No issues with MOOP at all. everything was sealed and we transported it in boxes so no rips etc.
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