camp fires

[Zoom]

i am not knowledged to the dos and don'ts of campfires. i would think that you would not be allowed to have your own camp fire. if that being true would i be allowed to have a propane gas fire pit ?

[Bob]

Not likely due to the general ban on open flame, torches, campfires etc. in all camping areas other than along the Esplanade, but they won't stop you from having a conventional barbecue.

[Zoom]

so in other words i could have a gas grill sitting on the ground. i know they would be concerned with the ashes. that is why i thought a gas fire pit would work. thank you

[Dr. Pyro]

In Wheeeee!Ville one of our villagemates made a metal burn barrel that worked very well. Everyone could sit around it and enjoy the ambiance of a campfire, but its design lent itself to leaving no trace; none of the burnt coals or wood ever hit the playa. I would suggest looking into a burn barrel and use people's experience from previous years to your advantage.

[Bob]

They're concerned with open flame and wind-blown cinders as much as burn scars.

[Zoom]

would i be okay with a pit like this with the use of propane?

[AntiM]

The official guidelines don't address propane:

Burn Barrels & Camp Fires

Camp fires are not permitted with the exception of designated public areas. 55 gallon steel drum "burn barrels" with legs, staked down against high winds, will be provided for some theme camps on the Esplanade. Groups receiving these will be asked to monitor their use and help with their clean up. Commercially manufactured type cooking equipment (staked down in case of winds) is the only acceptable fire sources for cooking within camps.


Tiki Torches, Candles & Lanterns

Winds pick up without warning and blow things over -- tent fires have started due to tiki torches, candles and lanterns being blown over in or around tents. Tiki torches are restricted to The Esplanade, the pedestrian boulevard at the fron of our city; Villages; in our Center Camp; and within the two Plazas on 2500' at the 90° and 270° intersections. We are tentatively allowing their reintroduction only in specific pre-approved locations along the esplanade. Unattended candles are discouraged and safe use of lanterns is encouraged.


How to Burn Clean

No fires on the unprotected playa -- they must be elevated, staked down, attended and cleaned up -- pack it in, pack it out. Bring square edged shovel, broom, and metal containers for ash and debris. There can be no pits dug into the playa surface for fires for any reason.
No bottles in fires! They shatter and create a multiplied pick up chore.
No burning of any synthetic materials (eg. couches, rugs, plastic or PVC), they release particularly toxic fumes and create hard to clean residue.

Use common sense in a tent city environment?

[Zoom]

where would i find or whom would i ask in reference to the use of propane gas. i can clearly understand with a fire that uses other resources for it's energy. very messy. thank you

[Bob]

I don't know what's unclear. They don't want campfires or anything with open flames within the camping area, with the exception of conventional barbecues. It's a fire hazard issue. If you want a fire, burn barrels and humongous burn platforms are provided on the Esplanade, where the open area and the prevailing southwest winds reduce the fire hazard.

[AntiM]

I never said unclear, I said not addressed, specifically as in commercially made propane fire pits, not as in open flames.

Commercially manufactured type cooking equipment

is not the same as

with the exception of conventional barbecues.

I use a butane stove, that has open flames and is not a conventional BBQ. I understand fire hazards and the implications of open flames in a flammable camping area. I also understand the guidelines are guidelines and will not cover every single possibility, that's why common sense comes into play.

I also think we're reading quite a bit too much into this.