Shade Structure Feedback needed.

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Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Eturnol » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:31 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/anrifll7ouu840p/Structure.jpg

Does this look like a good setup for a shade structure? The structure consists of 2x4s and 4x4 posts attached by galvanized fittings and outdoor wood screws. I plan to attach lattice to the top and two of the sides for shade, but also to let wind through. Chiffon fabric will be used for atmosphere and additional shade. I will tie down the four corners of the structure with rope and rebar. Should I take any other precautions so that the structure is safe? I dont wanna kill my wife or friends...
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Post by Elderberry » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:51 pm

Your link doesn't work.
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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Eturnol » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:06 am

oops sorry. Uploaded to drop box hope it works now

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Post by gaminwench » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:24 am

Looks good, but chiffon (or whatever fabric) will NOT be a sunscreen ... wear SPF rated blockerz ...
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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by SquirrelHead » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:41 pm

You could use aluminet or shade cloth to help with your shade needs. Then if you wanted to add some color or style to it you could add chiffon.
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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by trilobyte » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:52 pm

If you mean lattice like the fancy wood stuff used in gardens and such.... that's less shade and more selective areas of sun, isn't it? Also, plus SPF100 to what gaminwench said, chiffon is pretty but provides no UV protection.

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Eturnol » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:58 am

Yeah it's a lattice fence that will surround the top and 3 of the 4 sides. Once I screw it into the frame it should be pretty sturdy. I chose it because it should provide some shade while still letting wind through so my structure doesn't become a kite. It's true the chiffon is just for atmosphere. I'll update with the progress next week but I'm happy so far

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Post by DoctorIknow » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:49 am

The lattice shading should be nice (absorbing heat, too) if the gaps are close enough for good shade.

Here's a pic of your structure with my addition in white.

The only thing I would do is for the two sides with the middle braces, run one wire diagonally in each quadrant, with a turnbuckle on each.
Probably unnecessary, but easy to do and cheap.
I'm not conversant in construction, so maybe the diagonal wire should be differently put on...
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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Hoolie » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:18 am

Looks like a nice sturdy frame. Looking forward to the next phase.

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Post by Eturnol » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:25 am

Here is a link to what the structures will look like with the lattice work. I still have to include some sort of cross bracing as recommended. There are two identical structures which are partially modular in that they can rotate to form a single opening or two openings like a Z. I also need to decide on whether I should tie it down from the top or bottom.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7nh22iimvkkk ... 7%20PM.jpg

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Hoolie » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:11 am

That's looking rather beautiful actually. Do you really need cross-bracing though? It looks damn sturdy as is. Plus if you tie it down with guylines, that will strengthen it further.

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Eturnol » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:08 pm

Thanks! Yeah I'm pretty happy with it so far. I did buy guy lines for it. I'm just not sure how sturdy it actually has to be since I've never been to burning man and haven't really experienced a 75 MPH wind.

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Eturnol » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:04 pm

Here's the final structure. It ended up being super sturdy and had a wonderful ambience. I have plans to expand it for next year and introduce a Mad Hatter high tea theme next year. Thanks for the feedback!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ightzlct80lh ... M.jpg?dl=0

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Ratty » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:20 pm

That is a really beautiful lattice structure. I think I would have made it from plastic lattice. I'm afraid of 50 mph winds.
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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by spacetime » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:23 pm

Indeed, beautiful structure. Well done.

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Hoolie » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:59 pm

Looks great. You made a very nice space there, and it does look extremely sturdy.

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Re: Shade Structure Feedback needed.

Post by Oldguy » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:59 pm

Nice shed construction. I would be using 4'X8' panels stapled to 2"x4" frames bolted together with wing nuts, maybe a plywood roof. This type of gazebo would look nice in my backyard. Good job !

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