LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

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LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby krly » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:27 pm

Most monkey hut tutorials say to use 2' rebar pounded 1/2 way into the ground for the arch "footings/anchors". Has anyone tried using lag screws instead. Say, 1/2x18" drilled half way in ?
Also, is there a better source for the lags than :the Fastenersuperstore dot com ? (1/2x18" $2 each +/-) ?
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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby FIGJAM » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:22 pm

I'll be trying lags in legs this year.

They still have the best prices I've found.
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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby June Cleaver » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:52 pm

krly wrote:Most monkey hut tutorials say to use 2' rebar pounded 1/2 way into the ground for the arch "footings/anchors". Has anyone tried using lag screws instead. Say, 1/2x18" drilled half way in ?
Also, is there a better source for the lags than :the Fastenersuperstore dot com ? (1/2x18" $2 each +/-) ?
Thanks........krly



Maybe consider 3/8 × 14 Hex Lag @superstore. #476110

Attach two or 3 links of chain to each
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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby burner von braun » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:17 pm

I haven't done the monkey hut thing yet, but if I understand this correctly, then some of the bolt/rebar needs to remain exposed to slide the PVC rib down over it to pin it in place to the ground. In that case I would wonder if sliding the PVC rib down over a lag bolt might benefit from some sort of bushings so that contact is more evenly distributed along the length of the exposed lag bolt. Perhaps a sleeve for the bolt, or some duct tape wrapped in a couple of spots to thicken the lag circumference to better match the inside diameter of the PVC rib for a more snug fit. Then again, perhaps I'm overthinking this one.

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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby maladroit » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:40 pm

For the "spring" direction (right angles away from the central spine) the lags would do great holding the ends of the PVC in place, assuming you have a good way to attach the lags to the PVC (chain into a bolt crossdrilled through the PVC maybe). But the monkeyhut relies on a solid bar of material to keep the ribs from falling over in the axial direction (along the central spine). I believe this would make guy lines from the spine mandatory.

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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby graidawg » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:16 am

FIGJAM wrote:I'll be trying lags in legs this year.

They still have the best prices I've found.



so how did it go? we have two monkey huts as part of our art and would love an alternative to pounding rebar
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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:36 am

I screwed the 3/8"x14" lags in leaving 4"s exposed.

With the tarp lagged to the playa through the grommets, the legs never tried to slip up or sideways.

With 1" pvc you could use 1/2"x24" for more exposure and a deeper bite.

MY failure happened because the half hut was on the windward side of my trailer, and actually buckled the 1" pvc at the connector attached at the top!!! :oops:

First of my playa designs to fail.

One lag got slightly bent, but was easily straightened and is still functional.

So I stretched the original design to shade Tinymystics van. (with the help of some borrowed EMT)

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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby Freedyjay » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:37 pm

So, do you think it could work if you did the 1/2"x24" lag screws and went halfway as Figjam mentions? Then use the 1" PVC on them and maybe two smaller lag screws for the tarp?

I'm doing a Monkey Hut for the first time this year and want to avoid rebar if possible. Hoping using an impact driver is better.

(I know the Monkey hut is only six pieces of rebar, but a bit of a pain for someone with a bad back.)

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Re: LAG SCREWS and MONKEY HUTS...

Postby BBadger » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:24 pm

I would expect that would work. You might want a more hefty impact driver, but you could also just use a ratcheting wrench or something like that instead.
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