Water recycling shower design?

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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by ygmir » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:28 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:Next issue; sometimes people pee in the shower...
ygmir wrote:"with the flavors of those who've come before".......
I feel like you missed my double entendre.......
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by FlyingMonkey » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:46 am

ygmir wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:Next issue; sometimes people pee in the shower...
ygmir wrote:"with the flavors of those who've come before".......
I feel like you missed my double entendre.......
Ok. I'll drink the Damn PBR.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:50 am

ygmir wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:Next issue; sometimes people pee in the shower...
ygmir wrote:"with the flavors of those who've come before".......
I feel like you missed my double entendre.......
I caught your drift, but by your choice of wording I didn't think it was quite pee you were entendering about.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by ygmir » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:33 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
ygmir wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:Next issue; sometimes people pee in the shower...
ygmir wrote:"with the flavors of those who've come before".......
I feel like you missed my double entendre.......
I caught your drift, but by your choice of wording I didn't think it was quite pee you were entendering about.
fair enough .
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by gaminwench » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:01 pm

Wait, did you two just politely explain your snark to each other?? :shock:
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by WileE13 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:25 am

Some people I know fill a barrel with straw (rye I think) and oyster mushrooms, then filter their gray water through it. The mushrooms feed on all the nasty biological stuff in the water and do a pretty good job filtering it. Not sure how clean the water comes out or how long the process takes, but it is something to look into.

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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:23 pm

Why would you bother with that? It's still gonna be grey water.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by sparr » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:58 pm

BBadger wrote:I could just see the instructions for such a system with the recycled water:
  1. Start showering as usual.
  2. Soap up, rinse off.
  3. The water will turn off automatically after 5 minutes unless you flip the lever from "fresh water" to "recycled water"
  4. Continue showering in your recycled water for as long as you want
  5. Turn off the water
It seems important to make the system as idiot-proof as possible.

For cleaning, don't make each user do it; instead maybe automate a cleaning cycle that runs through the grey water line after each shower. A gallon of water with some abrasive detergent could be pumped through the grey water line, then a little to rinse it.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:37 pm

Awesome. That will take care of clearing your pipes of the nasty grey water the unlucky victim just doused their body with.
Then, there could be an automatic system that washes anyone who is coming out of that shower, since they will be nasty as fuck and need a shower more than they did before they went in.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by BBadger » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:41 pm

If you manage to make it fully automated please show us how it turns out.

Are you also going to add a system where it does a purge after the initial showering so that the recycled water used isn't the water the person did most of their cleaning with?
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by lucky420 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:17 pm

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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by sparr » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:23 pm

BBadger wrote:Are you also going to add a system where it does a purge after the initial showering so that the recycled water used isn't the water the person did most of their cleaning with?
TBD. I'm hopeful that most people would know to let the worst water go before they start recycling. If only so they don't get a bunch of soap in their recycled shower, even ignoring the other gunk in that water. If too many people don't understand that part, I could see just adding a delay, so when they flip the lever they keep getting fresh water for 30 seconds or something, enough time for the nasty water to drain.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by gaminwench » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:06 am

*Tip*

Don't count on 'most people' getting anything.

Ever.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by BBadger » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:32 am

I hope you have a good filter solution too, for your pump. You'll have hair, grime, soap, etc. going into that catch basin to be pumped back out. I have enough in my drain of my shower, and that's with clean supply water.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Jackass » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:17 am

You're going to have butt-matter in that water, people seeking a shower are actually wanting to clean their pores not get some kind of fecal related malady. Just use clean water for Peter's sake... I can understand wanting to get all crafty, but in the end you'd be better off with a wet towel or a pack of baby wipes.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Sham » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:55 am

Jackass wrote: Just use clean water for Peter's sake...
You had to go there, didn't you? 8)

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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by FlyingMonkey » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:47 am

Jackass wrote:You're going to have butt-matter in that water, people seeking a shower are actually wanting to clean their pores not get some kind of fecal related malady. Just use clean water for Peter's sake... I can understand wanting to get all crafty, but in the end you'd be better off with a wet towel or a pack of baby wipes.
Dude, I think you missed the point of this thread (and every Sparr thread). It has nothing to do with reality or practicality.

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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by sparr » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:07 am

https://showerloop.org/

https://orbital-systems.com/

http://www.recyclingshower.com.au/

http://quenchshowers.com/

The filtering part is a problem already solved many times over. I don't expect to need to reinvent that particular wheel.
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Post by Traveller in Time » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:13 am

Ain't going the hard way part of the plan anyway?

Is doing something 'because it is difficult' also a ritual?
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by FlyingMonkey » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:43 pm

sparr wrote:https://showerloop.org/

https://orbital-systems.com/

http://www.recyclingshower.com.au/

http://quenchshowers.com/

The filtering part is a problem already solved many times over. I don't expect to need to reinvent that particular wheel.
Sparr, the wheel needs to be reinvented every single day. Go for it man. If you come up with something NASA worthy then that's Freaking great. I just can't get past the fact that someone is going to pee in the shower. I understand where your coming from & it's the challenge more than the practicality of just getting clean. Best of luck, just don't get anyone sick or dead.

Rock on. I have a bus & will be using fresh water. I will innovate elsewhere. For the record I think recycling shower water is a bad idea for a 1 week event.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by FlyingMonkey » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:47 pm

Traveller in Time wrote:Ain't going the hard way part of the plan anyway?

Is doing something 'because it is difficult' also a ritual?
If you can do it safely then Hell Yeah, I'm with ya man.

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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by BBadger » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:25 am

Hmm, that Showerloop thing does look pretty feasible.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:22 am

Of course recycling showers can be done. NASA recycles URINE into drinking water.
But they are in outer goddamm space where self-sustainability is life-critical.

Have you noticed they never mention the expense of the system? It's hard to even find any straight $$ talk. That's because they're over $5000 and they're trying to claim you SAVE money.

The "cost savings" touted by the people selling those recycling showers are BULLSHIT!! $1000/year savings on showering? We don't even pay that much per year, and we have a niagra-falls, torrential downpour showerhead and we use that thing like it was free. Because it almost is.

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Post by Traveller in Time » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:54 am

Was it not also the Californian water-plants desalinating sea water?

Desalinated so even salt molecules are filtered out, you may be already drinking it.
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Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:56 am

Boats commonly have those.

Maybe I'm ignorant of water cost in SoCal.
Is it crazy expensive? Up here we have flooding problems. Hell we need to get rid of water.
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Post by Jackass » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:38 am

Nope, waters cheap in So-Cal too. When they need more, they apply more political pressure and just steal "buy" it from the north.
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Post by Ratty » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:37 pm

My original rideshare guy told me about the one in his camp in 2008 and 09. Gigsville. Two years ago the camp across from us was '24 hour shower'. Some officials came by and tested the water. It was safe and clean. I have to say the equipment was huge. Tanks and motors and hoses galore. It was on a raised wooden platform. Open undressing room and a big shower area. Sweet.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by mulch » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:53 am

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Post by Ratty » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:53 am

Mulch, Very impressive. Are you going this year? I applaud you. I use the 'Savannah' method. Wipes.
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Re: Water recycling shower design?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:02 pm

It can certainly be done but Mulch has the necessary skills and qualifications to do things like build spacecraft with his left hand while operating on people's brains with his right hand while chewing gum and making it look easy.
It's not a matter of just recirculating shower water filtered through a bucket of charcoal and a cheesecloth then clearing it out with a shot of fresh water when you're done getting "clean".
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