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Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by bigbluedoggy » Fri May 24, 2019 12:02 pm

I'm seeing info pop up on Facebook about a company offering rental organic toilets with specific marketing targeted at Burning Man camps. This company, whom I shall not name at this time in order to not run afoul of eplaya guidelines, apparently made quite a splash at the Oregon Eclipse with their toilets. They are claiming to offer full servicing of the units within your camp as part of the service. As a renter of normal USS portos for our camp each year, I am curious if these guys are legit. I don't see them listed on the approved OSS list, but then again, there is no category for Portajohns. The units look large and each one offers two seats on a raised platform with a large tank system behind/underneath them. They claim the waste becomes fertilizer that will be used locally.

Does anyone have any further info regarding the legitimacy of these for Burning Man? Are they approved as an OSS? I asked for a quote and am awaiting a response, mostly for research purposes.
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by lucky420 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:13 pm

Are the 2 seats together in the same Porto?
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by Sham » Fri May 24, 2019 12:29 pm

lucky420 wrote:
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Are the 2 seats together in the same Porto?
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Post by Ratty » Fri May 24, 2019 12:58 pm

Those stairs won't work at the event. Imagine the accidents! The existing toilets don't dump their product in a lake. It's also used as fertilizer. (I worked the porto potty project with Robbie Dobbs.)
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by motskyroonmatick » Fri May 24, 2019 1:21 pm

Ratty wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 12:58 pm
Those stairs won't work at the event. Imagine the accidents! The existing toilets don't dump their product in a lake. It's also used as fertilizer. (I worked the porto potty project with Robbie Dobbs.)
Yep! Straight on to alfalfa fields is what I heard.

I've got to agree. The stairs would be the new astro turf slide.
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by lucky420 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:00 pm

Sham wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 12:29 pm
lucky420 wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 12:13 pm
Are the 2 seats together in the same Porto?
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Post by bigbluedoggy » Fri May 24, 2019 2:07 pm

The immediate response to my comment on their facebook page about them not appearing on the Approved list of OSS vendors :

Hi Dave, I'm ______, the Social Media lady for ________. I'm checking in about this.... Hang tight!

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Post by bigbluedoggy » Fri May 24, 2019 4:41 pm

Not recommending or dissing one way or the other. Just presenting info. This was the response when I mentioned that only approved OSS vendors would be allowed and that I would not commit to anything like this unless info comes from the BMORG about it.
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Post by Ratty » Fri May 24, 2019 5:11 pm

I got a question for them. How are you going to provide a toilet for the burners in wheelchairs? There is currently one at the end of each bank.
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by lucky420 » Sat May 25, 2019 7:17 am

Ratty wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 5:11 pm
I got a question for them. How are you going to provide a toilet for the burners in wheelchairs? There is currently one at the end of each bank.
If this is a private company, providing for camps and not providing for the general public they don’t have to have accessible Porto’s
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Post by Ratty » Sat May 25, 2019 9:12 am

But they say that they are in talks with the borg about 'one bank'. They should put them up 30 feet in the air with just a railing around the seat. No walls. Sky potty.
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by Token » Sat May 25, 2019 9:19 am

Just hang a bucket off the second step and a bag of kitty-litter next to it, call it done. ;)

It’s funny, for being massive tree-huggers, they sure blew off the ADA requirement.

It’s ironical!

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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by lucky420 » Sat May 25, 2019 1:06 pm

Ratty wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:12 am
But they say that they are in talks with the borg about 'one bank'. They should put them up 30 feet in the air with just a railing around the seat. No walls. Sky potty.
Hahahahaha I didn’t realize the “in talks with...”
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Post by ygmir » Sun May 26, 2019 8:02 am

Token wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:19 am
Just hang a bucket off the second step and a bag of kitty-litter next to it, call it done. ;)

It’s funny, for being massive tree-huggers, they sure blew off the ADA requirement.

It’s ironical!
this, so often. yeah, people will say or claim anything to be accepted and make a profit.....

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Post by some seeing eye » Sun May 26, 2019 8:18 am

If it's the company I'm thinking of, they add wood sawdust to the urine and poop. That's a difficult material to handle on playa. It is extremely doubtful that that small a company can jump through all the BLM/BORG OSS hoops. An ex of mine actually proposed to the BORG a cassette toilet system many years back pre-OSS, with the cassette periodically removed for composting off site. Maybe the Nevada add-to poop and urine kitty litter is ground sagebrush?

Many people are slobs in public potties, that is why they have restroom attendants in many countries with a nominal tip.

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Post by lucky420 » Sun May 26, 2019 8:51 am

Aaaaaand whose to say they wouldn’t be adding an ADA accessible Porto at the end of the bank just like any other approved vendor?

Nope, ya’ll just jumped their shit before you knew anything :lol:
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Post by ygmir » Sun May 26, 2019 9:00 am

lucky420 wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 8:51 am
Aaaaaand whose to say they wouldn’t be adding an ADA accessible Porto at the end of the bank just like any other approved vendor?

Nope, ya’ll just jumped their shit before you knew anything :lol:
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Re: Organic Toilet Vendor Legit and OSS Approved?

Post by lucky420 » Sun May 26, 2019 3:09 pm

ygmir wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 9:00 am
lucky420 wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 8:51 am
Aaaaaand whose to say they wouldn’t be adding an ADA accessible Porto at the end of the bank just like any other approved vendor?

Nope, ya’ll just jumped their shit before you knew anything :lol:
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Post by fresh » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:14 pm

FWIW. Searched ePlaya to see if I could find info on Portos since we had issues this year with ours and found this post. I believe they were a verified OSS vendor since I heard there was a public bank of them outside out 10:00 and our well known neighbors had a 2 Porto unit and was I able to experience them. First off, yes there are two separate stalls. Yes, there are stairs, but I believe it is needed to account for the composting section. No, they do not use sawdust. Yes, they were the best porto’s I have ever used, roomy, sturdy, not smelly at all. Yes they are very expensive. No chemicals. Yes, It was the best Porto’s I have ever experienced and that includes getting brand spanking new Porto’s in our camp last year. Yes, they are insanely expensive to rent and service (all in one price). Huge potential for the future.
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Post by bigbluedoggy » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:50 pm

Yup, have seen several posts on FB regarding these post-burn... almost all raves. There was a bank of 3 units out by 10:00 (6 seats) and they were kept very clean by the company throughout the event (other than one sour post about one being a mess that I have seen). A couple of other camps have posted about their experience and they loved them and claimed they were the best upgrade they had ever made. Food for thought!
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