Keeping Cool with Health Challenges

Swamp Coolers, Cooler Management, Dry Ice, Misting Systems, and just plain how to beat the heat.
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Keeping Cool with Health Challenges

Post by scriptorpress » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:27 am

Hi guys,

So my wife and I are intending to return to BRC in 2022 after not being there since 2009. Went many times before that. One of the challenges we had, that remains, that I really want to address is her vulnerability and discomfort in the heat. She's a tough cookie, loves the desert and BRC, but her MS condition is a challenge. Heat really wears her down. We have used various strategies, but I want to learn from all of you.

I read about swamp coolers and Kafka ties here. What else, specifically for folks who are even more challenged by the heat than the rest of us? Thanks for any thoughts or, if there is an obvious thread that I missed, just link me :)

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Re: Keeping Cool with Health Challenges

Post by unjonharley » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:23 pm

I have a cube called Under The Weather . . Mine is for a single chair but they come in larger sizes . . That and a swamp cooler can let you watch the fool in the noon day sun . .
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Re: Keeping Cool with Health Challenges

Post by some seeing eye » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:13 pm

Welcome back! I started in '99 and need to get back!

We are having unusual heat events in the NW, so this is on my mind right now.

There are a lot of blood vessels on the scalp. That is where skin cooling can have an effect more than the neck. It's probably psychological, but a cool foot soak seems to help me too. As you know, with the dust, mist or wiping down soon turns dusty. So have a cooler with a spout to dispense your clean ice melt water for cooling, and another system for cool potable drinking water. I bring one of those solar camp showers. You can use them hot or cold.

My special cause is electrolytes. You have a lot of experience in your own health needs. Adding to that, we have awesome free health care in playa medical, meet them when you arrive, and if you need them, don't hesitate.
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Re: Keeping Cool with Health Challenges

Post by Papa Bear » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:25 pm

There are two different challenges here - keeping cool while in camp, and keeping cool while out and about.

In-camp solution are most amenable to serious cooling, and there's no shame in staying in camp and staying cool/sleeping during the heat of the day, then going out during cooler times of the day or night. The simplest solution there is an RV with AC, but that's also the most expensive.

Alternately, you can take a small cargo trailer or box truck, build a temporary wall (and if needed, a door) across the back using plywood or rigid foam insulation, and cool with with a window AC unit and a generator. Still not cheap, but a much smaller investment than an RV. A smaller cargo trailer or truck is low enough in volume that even a small window unit will be very effective. Works much better if you can shade the vehicle too.

If you're not using a vehicle as your base, you're likely in either a hexayurt (not sure if those were common yet in 2009) or a tent. The hexayurt will be much easier to keep cool and will stay that way longer. A tent will require shade over it (with airflow between tent and shade material).

Neither will get you below the ambient temperature without some sort of additional active cooling, but Figjam's battery-powered swamp cooler designs, if made and used properly, can shave another 10 degrees or so off of ambient in most years. Mine did struggle a bit in 2017, but that year was not only really hot, but also more humid than usual.

One mostly-stationary option is a battery-powered misting fan (such as Ryobi's) that sit on a 5-gallon bucket of water, but this requires either multiple battery packs or a way to recharge them, and goes through quite a bit of water - figure a gallon an hour or so.

Alternately, if you're willing to make the trips to Arctica, ice water poured over the head (or into a shallow tub for soaking feet) can be wonderful. You don't even have to use ice water to rinse someone's head, though I'd avoid water that's been sitting in direct sun all day. Dealing with the greywater is the bigger issue there.

For cooling while mobile, you're again probably looking at evaporation solutions.

- handheld spray misters
- neckerchiefs and similar solutions that hold water using agricultural beads and slowly evaporate it, cooling the neck/head. I recommend having extras to rotate out, since after a while the dust and sweat can make them pretty disgusting.

One other possible option - if your wife has a handicapped placard or a government-issued disability ID or license plate number, she could apply for a disability vehicle (DV) license. This would allow you to use a car with air conditioning to move about the playa, so long as she is in the vehicle. More about that here: https://burningman.org/event/art-perfor ... -vehicles/

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Re: Keeping Cool with Health Challenges

Post by HarryN » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:16 am

A friend of mine's wife has the same challenge.

In her case, there is also a sensitivity to the thin air at elevations like BM is held at. Perhaps check if that is a factor for your wife or not.

Maybe consider that it might require a generator based air conditioner to keep her cool enough sometimes. In theory at least, the load on the air conditioner can be reduced by using evaporative cooling, as that is done routinely in hotels using a small cooling tower.

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