ROOT SOCIETY 2012

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby piehole » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:39 pm

fuck yeah silent disco!!
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby MacGlenver » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:59 pm

piehole wrote:fuck yeah silent disco!!

No those are noise canceling. They would give them to every OTHER burner so RS could be as loud as they want :-)
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby junglesmacks » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:09 pm

Although.. I witnessed firsthand a silent disco in full action at Bonnaroo this year.. and it was pretty awesome to watch..
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby calm » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:32 pm

root society was dope.

i am honored to have spun on friday night. holllaaa

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby piehole » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:17 pm

junglesmacks wrote:Although.. I witnessed firsthand a silent disco in full action at Bonnaroo this year.. and it was pretty awesome to watch..


i wanna partake in one at one point in my life. it has got to be a mind-boggling thing to witness. seeing all these people boogie to what you perceive as silence yet every single one of them are on the same page!
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Bob » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:36 pm

And here I thought bunringman was the Special Olympics of Art.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby RedHeaven » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:16 am

AT High Sierra, we have a Kickball/Silent Disco mash up every morning....Ive never seen anything like it.

MORE KICKBALL IN THE MORNINGS!!! Less groove drone!!! (only a bit less) ;)

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby paulo999 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:40 pm

Chiming with what Simon said earlier... Not everyone who comes to a sound camp to dance is inconsiderate.

I did a little daytime mooping at our (RS) biggest stage. Several people started to help, and lots of others said "Thank you".

And the moop wasn't too bad (daytime admittedly, I suspect our dawn moopers got the bulk of it). Feathers and cig butts mainly. The worst was under the dance platforms. The sides were scrimmed so the moop was lying hidden. One had to duck under the scrim to discover the fallen stuff.

Some of it you can see was a product of dancing. A beaded necklace snaps and whoosh... every last bead hits the floor. In the dark, even the most conscientious person won't be able to pick all that up.

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby RedHeaven » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:39 pm

PRetty sure the point here goes way beyond the subject of MOOP, and nobodys arguing that all kinds of peeps go to the sound camps, not just young ravers.
Its the fact that the sound camps have gotten REALLY big and their sound, energy, etc, might be taking over a bit too much for the city these days is what I am gathering and agreeing with. They are a major part of BMan, always have been, but some people these days tend to treat BMan like a festival. They download the Rockstar Librarian guide and hit up their fav DJs every night, which is their right.....but thats just less people being involved in the city as a whole and more people that go for the sole reason of being at the raddest rave on the planet.
And its just the facts, sometimes high concentrations of people lead to weird energy. There might be a lot of good peeps at the sound camps but I am more likely to interact with them at a piece of art or a backstreet bar.

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Bob » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:48 pm

If you ravers really wanted to contribute to LNT, you'd invent a plastics magnet.

DPW could use one on the Playa Zamboni.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:50 pm

Bob wrote:If you ravers really wanted to contribute to LNT, you'd invent a plastics magnet.

DPW could use one on the Playa Zamboni.

Not to mention you could sell it to some do-gooders in boats (greenpeace?) and maybe even get an award from the EPA...
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:00 pm

paulo, you are very observant...

i did the early morning mooping as you described because its my habit and tradition and i find the best drugs on the ground that time of day.

the space underneath the platforms covered with scrim was filled with stuff as you described....little bits of little pieces of plastic shit and various dollar store trinkets...

and pills..

i think the issue is greatly affected by demographics as well....extraordinary high proportion of newbs....high percentage of these newbs drawn by EDM (electronic dance music) and not art or radical expression. We were the giant Duraflame Log to these Moths that mistook us for Real Fire.

they brought their detritus with them too.

again, maybe im an asshole, but dear god, if you pack it in, pack it out, its that fucking simple.

if you can carry 100 whipits across to playa, instead of depositing them in lovely little piles, why not carry them back with you.

cuz its Not Funny.

i dont know...i suppose im an idiot to expect that if you open a biker Bar, there would be no fights, or if i opened a veggie restaurant there would be no yoga fliers, so i guess to open a large sound camp and not expect E-Tards is ridiculous, and im an fool for thinking otherwise.

next year, i'm making art.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:07 pm

"10 principles? you cant HANDLE the 10 principles..."

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby 5280MeV » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:42 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:if you can carry 100 whipits across to playa, instead of depositing them in lovely little piles, why not carry them back with you.


Look, we're just trying to have a good time. We can be responsible people.

We ARE going to carry them back.

We just just just just pick them up

just pick them

into the

just just pick them up and put them them bag the

into the the the the bag bag pick

into

up up up into the pick I was

up was I thought

into in was the the the the the the the womp wump womp womp

baggggg..... g.... g.... g.... up up up up up

wu-wu-wu-wu

wu-wu-womp-womp-womp-womp

I waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssss..... weeew, weeew, weeew, wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

wom, wom, wom, wom, wom, wom, wom....

guuu.... up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up

weee........../wee/weeee/wee/weee//www/...w/e.w.../w..ee...

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into the baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggggg........

THUMP
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Bob » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:10 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:...next year, i'm making art.


I feel a great disturbance in the Schwartz...
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby forty_eight » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:22 pm

^ who's Schwartz is bigger?

Simon of the Playa wrote:

and pills..


Subtle mooping advert is subtle

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby paulo999 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:35 pm

Hey Simon :)

I think the noobs thing is variable. Remember that the Krug krew were 'experienced' burners ;)

In contrast, many of the noobs are the most inspired and least cynical, they just need good role models. Of course I would say that, being a noob. :)

If I had any cynicsm, it would be weekenders. It's not that they ruin things as such, more that you appreciate the *hurt* of that place by being there for a week or so. And by extension, I can understand DPW being on different mental plane altogether.

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Bob » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Burning Man was founded by weekenders. Arguable whether it's improved.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:03 pm

Paulo, we had some Great Stealth Newbs...

Them two Weird British Guys 8)

yuri and steve k...bri

all took to it like dustfish..

alot of newbs "get it" whatever "it" is...alot of vets act like they don't...and not all ravers are e-tards, nor is all EDM Crap...

i listen to happy hard-core, but im fucked up that way... :twisted:

anyway, this is not an indictment of the newbs but more a critique of a certain segment that just comes to rave, and never interacts with the rest of the BRC.

and i loves me a good ho-down with mind bending sound systems, but thats only a portion of the huge buffet available, and should be sampled, but not eaten all week, every meal.

and if you're gonna go big, you better have a big plan in place with proper resources alloted to clean big.

one last thought, since a deep playa ghetto has some inherent problems why not a throwback to earlier days and make a disturbia side and quiet-town on the other (i.e. Large sound only placed on one street, 10 or 2, and have their sound point out towards deep playa.)

the other corner would be reserved for mimes, and helen keller seminars.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby 5280MeV » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:48 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:i listen to happy hard-core, but im fucked up that way... :twisted:


My god... last time I did HHC I was blasting some remix of tetris out of a car in some shitty neighborhood in Detroit while driving back from an Underworld show in 99 or so. It was on a casette tape.

Does that stuff still exist? Maybe it is the answer to all your problems.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:03 am

i got mines...
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:06 am

OH, AND BTW Mr.F.Fur....

keep burning man potentially fatal™ is a registered trademark and you will be receiving a Cease and Desist order from my Lawyers, Dewey, Skrewem and Howe very shortly.

for realzies... :twisted:
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby H.G.Crosby » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:09 am

would that be the Ames Branch Office?
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby RedHeaven » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:21 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:
one last thought, since a deep playa ghetto has some inherent problems why not a throwback to earlier days and make a disturbia side and quiet-town on the other (i.e. Large sound only placed on one street, 10 or 2, and have their sound point out towards deep playa.)

the other corner would be reserved for mimes, and helen keller seminars.


That would be rad. I would spend one morning in the untz zone, and the next doing yoga and drinking tea with Helen Keller wannabees.

The way it is now does give the city a nice C balance, though. The 10 and 2 corners like to hold that space it seems. I like the idea of only having one side, too. Or, just not have the sound camps stretch all the way up the streets. They are huge crazy city blocks now compared to 2005 or even 07. dang, Root Society in 07 seemed practically *cozy* compared to now! Remember when the only other largeish sound camp over there that year was Rednose Big Top on like 8:30? It just seemed a little more balanced when it was like that. OMG it was so much cooler when I was a kid!!

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Bob » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:09 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:....one last thought, since a deep playa ghetto has some inherent problems why not a throwback to earlier days and make a disturbia side and quiet-town on the other (i.e. Large sound only placed on one street, 10 or 2, and have their sound point out towards deep playa.)

the other corner would be reserved for mimes, and helen keller seminars.


Bunch of hand-waving if you ask me. I recall when the org decreed a Quiet Side, they still put Bianca's Smut Shack out at the Esplanade & South 20th / 2:00 corner in '98 & '99 respectively. While they were relatively quiet during the week, they cranked up a throbbing canned-music sound system the last couple of nights days/nights. My friends' camp a couple hundred feet away had art installations that employed barely-audible ambient sound that got completely drowned out. Don't think the AEZ people were happy either. Fucking smut shacks with fucking friends in the org, same old fucking story every year.

Nobody goes for the quiet or the dark anymore, Simon. Maybe in May or June, or October; can't get away from the bozos in July anymore. Yeah, still bitter after all these years.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:13 pm

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:i got mines...

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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:35 am

Bob wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:....one last thought, since a deep playa ghetto has some inherent problems why not a throwback to earlier days and make a disturbia side and quiet-town on the other (i.e. Large sound only placed on one street, 10 or 2, and have their sound point out towards deep playa.)

the other corner would be reserved for mimes, and helen keller seminars.


Bunch of hand-waving if you ask me. I recall when the org decreed a Quiet Side, they still put Bianca's Smut Shack out at the Esplanade & South 20th / 2:00 corner in '98 & '99 respectively. While they were relatively quiet during the week, they cranked up a throbbing canned-music sound system the last couple of nights days/nights. My friends' camp a couple hundred feet away had art installations that employed barely-audible ambient sound that got completely drowned out. Don't think the AEZ people were happy either. Fucking smut shacks with fucking friends in the org, same old fucking story every year.

Nobody goes for the quiet or the dark anymore, Simon. Maybe in May or June, or October; can't get away from the bozos in July anymore. Yeah, still bitter after all these years.


i remember it well, our camp was directly behind Bianca's...directly opposite AEZ and the then small temple of Mez...

we ate grilled cheeses all week and had plenty of bad porn to go around.

that was the year drano burned too, i believe. it's all getting fuzzy as i get older and take more drugs...
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:25 am

well, i knew this was coming...


from Bxxxxx Bxxxxxxxxx

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" I just finished a short stint at Playa Restoration. At the end of the day yesterday about 50 people were involved cleaning up a large chunk of the area occupied by Root Society. "


thats what happens when you dont have a moop plan, or the resources and manpower assigned to do it.

a shit show.





on behalf of my former camp, all i can say is i'm sorry. I thought i was being a "Good Burner"


stick me in the spandex prison for 20 years, i deserve it, i should have known, but i was too busy with my meglomania to see the forest thru the tipis.

Inside The Rave™, i think will be the working title...i'll have plenty of time to finally write.
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Re: ROOT SOCIETY 2012

Postby dj_john69 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:27 pm

Ouch, that sucks Simon but shit happens. Bummer it happened though.
Fuck you, fuck you...you're cool, fuck you !!


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