Hitchikers on the playa?

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Hitchikers on the playa?

Post by Casanova » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:56 pm

So i was amazed to see all the hitchikers on the side of the road after burning man and thought that they all probably hitchiked there?.. I wouldn't do this at the chance of not finding a ride, but wanted to do this for fun across the States.. I was just wondering how do you think they survive that week with only a backpack on their backs?..And comments, suggestions, or advice?.. Thanks.

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Post by moonrise » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:01 am

They wear clothing also... not just a backpack, LOL

I recall the news reporting these awful stories;

About 15 years ago a guy hitch hiked from East I-80 and was raped repeatedly by a trucker who was "kind enough" to pick him up and give him a ride, yikes, he killed the trucker in the Reno area to escape and was never charged. Probably justifiable homicide.

Anoher guy tried hitchhiking across the country about 10 years ago? and was brutally murdered in Colorado or was it Vermont? Yikes.

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I don't think Hitching across the USA is safe any longer; don't you want to live to return to BM 2011, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18..................................?
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Post by pizzamancer » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:18 am

moonrise wrote:
About 15 years ago a guy hitch hiked from East I-80 and was raped repeatedly by a trucker who was "kind enough" to pick him up and give him a ride, yikes, he killed the trucker in the Reno area to escape and was never charged. Probably justifiable homicide.

Anoher guy tried hitchhiking across the country about 10 years ago? and was brutally murdered in Colorado or was it Vermont? Yikes.
Well... Statistically, that makes hitch hiking a lot more safe than flying in an airplane.
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Post by AntiM » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:54 am

Ted Bundy once gave me a ride. Didn't know who he was at the time. Seriously, I'm lucky.

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Post by unjonharley » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:04 am

I hiched. through Des Plains few times while that nut was picling teen hicher. Gayse or some thing like that early 50s

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Post by ygmir » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:10 am

AntiM wrote:Ted Bundy once gave me a ride. Didn't know who he was at the time. Seriously, I'm lucky.
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Post by ¡Niers! » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:32 am

Hopping freight trains is much more fun and you don't have to deal with so many yuppies.
I've hitchiked alot too. In my opinion, it's just frustrating. I guess some people think it's polite to throw things at you as they pass by.
Whatever you do, don't do it alone. Strength in numbers.
If you hop trains, get yourself an updated Rand McNally map of the railways.
I have an old crew-change guide that I'm sure is way out dated. I bet you could find a newer one online somewhere. I has the basic schedules of all the train routes and where they usually stop to switch crews. Avoid train yards in BIG cities, alot of not so fun stories I've heard. Never get on a moving train.....know where they stop and where they go.

Just be safe and smart.

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Post by geospyder » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:34 am

¡Niers! wrote:Hopping freight trains is much more fun and you don't have to deal with so many yuppies.
I've hitchiked alot too. In my opinion, it's just frustrating. I guess some people think it's polite to throw things at you as they pass by.
Whatever you do, don't do it alone. Strength in numbers.
If you hop trains, get yourself an updated Rand McNally map of the railways.
I have an old crew-change guide that I'm sure is way out dated. I bet you could find a newer one online somewhere. I has the basic schedules of all the train routes and where they usually stop to switch crews. Avoid train yards in BIG cities, alot of not so fun stories I've heard. Never get on a moving train.....know where they stop and where they go.

Just be safe and smart.
That's how my grandfather died - hopping a train in Colorado in 1915. It was icy, he slipped, went under and the train took off his legs. The newspaper account says "...in effect he bled to death." Duhhh!
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Post by C.f.M. » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:35 am

Hitchhiking's great!

If you get picked up.

And don't have to walk for hours and hours to keep moving.

And the person isn't looking to torture, maim, sexually abuse or just fuck with you. Or steal your shit. [/u]

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Post by lucky420 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:40 am

Damn AntiM all I can say is fuck yeah you were lucky...shitfire

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Post by lambert13 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:56 am

I used to hitchhike when I was a teen/early 20s. Usually it went well. Most people were willing to give me a ride if they were going in the same direction. But all it takes is one bad experience to scare you off of it.

I was hitching home from the train station because while it was only a 3-4 mile walk that I usually enjoyed, it was below zero temps that night. Nobody was picking me up like usual. Then a car drive by, hit the brakes and backed up a bit to meet me. Good, right? Nope. The driver got out of the car which in hindsight is a bit weird. He met me near the trunk and was asking where I was headed. Told him where and he said he was going that way too.

Then it got bad. During the short conversation I saw 3 other guys get out of the car. Hmmm. Making room for me? They were all young, big guys and seemed a little drunk. I was/am over 6' tall and can usually hold my own. Out of nowhere one of the guys cracks me in the head from behind with a bat or something. I hit the ground immediately, stunned and in a lot of pain. Then all of them joined in kicking, punching, clubbing me. I tried to kick them away and was doing my best to throw punches from on my back on the ground. It was useless. There was too many of them and they wanted blood.

Sometime during this I got knocked out. Next thing I remember is waking up with blood all over my face, pain everywhere and really cold. Those motherfuckers beat me and left me on the side of the road in the snow. Even better was that they stole my backpack, took my wallet, took my jacket and even stole my fucking shoes.

I was miles from home on a road that gets little to no traffic aside from when trains stop at the station. I took the last train of the night so nobody was going to be on the road. I had to walk home beaten and bloody in below zero weather with no shoes. I ripped up the shirt I had over my tshirt to wrap around my feel to give some protection and warmth in addition to my socks.

Needless to say I never tried hitching after that. It was a very scary and painful incident that I did not want to temp repeating.

Moral of the story: Don't hitchhike. There are too many sickos out there. And you never know when it's your turn.
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Post by lucky420 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:27 am

ya listening Casanova?

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Post by BAS » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:17 am

:shock: Ted Bundy and getting beat up by a bunch of @$$holes! I'm glad I never have tried hitchhiking!
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Post by Eric » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:34 am

Re: hitchhiking from Burning Man: you're pretty likely to get someone nice (though I've had some horror stories from people about getting rides from Burners who should not have been driving).

Most of the people you see doing that had rides in that they couldn't take back for a variety of reasons: they needed to leave early or wanted to stay longer; they got in a fight with their ride; they had only agreed to a ride in; etc etc. Very few hitchhike to the event- that whole "self reliance" for food & water thing. Not saying no-one hitchhikes in, just that it's rare.

As for going cross country that way...... just have a will ready.
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Post by ¡Niers! » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:42 am

Wow.....that sucks.
Yeah, I have no desire to hitch anymore. I have a truck now and don't mind driving myself. Plus....I'm not as young and careless as I used to be, I gots too many things to be thankful for.
It's crazy how many crazy, nutty assholes are out there.

geospyder----notice that I stressed to NEVER get on a moving train. NEVER!

If you don't know where a train is going, don't get on it either. Plus stay away from the boxcars. It seems cool just like in the movies.....but those big doors lock automatically from the outside. Sometimes they close on their own from the train braking and such. When a boxcar is empty, that means it's not being used and they sometimes just unhook them and leave them in the middle of nowhere for weeks perhaps. If someone is stuck in there and that happens.....dead. A slow death at that.

If I was single and had nothing going on in my life.....I'd probably do it again. But being safe on a freight train requires more than just common sense and a free spirit. You really need to know what you are doing. Period.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:03 pm

I was lucky, too.
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Post by lovetolove » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:25 pm

They probably broke down on the playa

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Post by knowmad » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:17 pm

I have done quite abit of hitching in my day. And I pick up people too. both of them involve risk, but then agian so does hotubbing while drinking, epressing your own opinions and interactions with the police.

a few things to think about.
A) Fear leads either to irrational action, or inaction. both not so good.
B) Not all that wander are lost.
C) Karma.

We are in a wild and crazy universe. there are things like unconditional love, and Myelomeningocele. and in my experience it is as pointless as nippeless tits to try to derive the whys.

Having once hitched from Miami to Seattle I saw the best of my country, and some of the worst of our people. From Stunning sunrises on the plains, to Twisters in the rear view mirror. I met up with generous pot-smugglers, and racist cops. I was sexually-prosed/attacked, and warmly welcomed. Some people were talkative, others not. and nature itself was my friend as well as my enemy. I had two near death experiances on that 28 day trip (hypothermia, and the klu-klux-klan).

so if you hitch, be ready for it. or in the words of old man Hunter "Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Post by Casanova » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:34 pm

Thanks fer the advice, i definatly will look into that train thing..

@ lambert13: sorry 2 hear that bro, some people are just idiots with no life, glad u made it through that

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Post by Paydirt » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:05 am

When I was a kid in the 70's I hitchhiked all over the U.S. Not running away from anything just a burning curiousity about the world beyond Bumfuck, Georgia. In spite of being a very shy and dumber than a box of rocks [well very naive anyway] female 15 yr. old nothing all that terrible happened to me. Met wonderful people, scary people, a few predatory assholes. Many fantastic adventures!
I don't think that people are willing to stop for hitchhikers as much anymore and yes by putting yourself out there you run a risk that could probably be eliminated by staying home and limiting your social interaction to facebook. It helps to be young, really tough and annoyingly optomistic too. Maybe some giant thumbs like Sissy Hankshaw!

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Post by Paydirt » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:19 am

Then I discovered sailboats.

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Post by C.f.M. » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:21 am

Heh, from Bumfuck to Cornville.


Flying out of Reno last year, I spent hours in the airport waiting as delay after delay piled up. The woman next to me had been there visiting her son in prison (I want to say she was from...Oklahoma?).

A few years ago he up and decided to go west, young man, and attend Burning Man. He murdered the guy who gave him a ride back to Reno and has been in jail in Reno since.

The kind of story I would've pshawed, if somebody else posted it, but it happened for reals.

With all the ride-sharing sites/info, and sites like Couchsurfing, pseudo-hitching shouldn't be much of a problem.

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Post by Sail Man » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:26 am

Paydirt wrote:Then I discovered sailboats.
Ah yes, they can be a wonderful thang :wink:
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Post by mudpuppy000 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:52 am

Sail Man wrote:
Paydirt wrote:Then I discovered sailboats.
Ah yes, they can be a wonderful thang :wink:
Except for the pirates, and sharks, and hurricanes, and... :D

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Post by ¡Niers! » Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:15 pm

I was thinking more along the lines of......Pirates! Awesome! Sign me up!

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Post by moonrise » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:14 pm

C.f.M. wrote: A few years ago he up and decided to go west, young man, and attend Burning Man. He murdered the guy who gave him a ride back to Reno and has been in jail in Reno since.

The kind of story I would've pshawed, if somebody else posted it, but it happened for reals.

With all the ride-sharing sites/info, and sites like Couchsurfing, pseudo-hitching shouldn't be much of a problem.
Holy shit! glad you pointed THAT out cfm. I want to be able to offer a ride(s) to and from BM 2011, i'm gonna need to look into the ride share at airport and rethink picking up thumber(s) on the way out. i can probably offer a ride out to known peep(s), I like breathing air.

casanova, sail boats...my dentist sails to hawaii from stockton! follows the jet streams, no compass usage, LOL, & totally drunk, fun crowd, his group does it all the time, LOL

sailboats, bus trips (and hippie taxis DO exist, the ones who told me were at reno decomp, they would work odd jobs & street perform along the way to anywhere, probably had a few bucks in an atm too) these sound more realistic. pseudo-hitching, LOL, cfm = a womans instincts are usually best, i think your post may have just saved my life! ;) gracias
(btw, we do hitch in ski towns but even that has some stories, 99% good n a few bad)
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Post by FaeTora » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:57 pm

More people are killed by vending machines each year than by sharks.
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Post by ygmir » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:19 pm

FaeTora wrote:More people are killed by vending machines each year than by sharks.
are you channeling Gyre?
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Post by FaeTora » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:24 pm

But its true! Sharks don't really kill that many people worldwide.
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Post by sputnik » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:26 pm

No, but the vending machines kill the fuckwits who tip them. I won't be killed by a vending machine. I'm also highly unlikely to be killed by a shark
It's going to be alright.

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