From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.m.

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Post by Bob » Tue May 10, 2011 10:26 am

I think s/he meant Gate will open *defiantly* at 6pm. Don't they always?
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Post by Savannah » Tue May 10, 2011 11:02 am

The Gate people are pretty brash.

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Post by Lord Of Ruin » Tue May 10, 2011 12:40 pm

Just to be clear, the primary reason to open the gate earlier is to move the main traffic time to daylight hours in reasonable timeframes for the bulk of the population.

People come to the event from all over the world, but the bulk of them are from the bay area. The goal is to get it so that majority are travelling when it's likely that they are well-rested and in brightly -lit daylight hours.

A huge portion of the issues that slow down the Gate are when people are completely unprepared combined with being sleep deprived/altered and having to work through those issues in such a state.

I'm aware of what JRS says the reason for the early open last year and "relieving pressure" was part of it, but everyone with an IQ above 80 is aware that that is a one-time thing once people shift to a new earlier opening time.

It's just to make it much safer for everyone involved.

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Post by ygmir » Tue May 10, 2011 12:42 pm

Savannah wrote:The Gate people are pretty brash.
Hey now........I'm a very demure fellow.......and, I did a couple of gate shifts last year.....and will again this year. Opening Monday morning.........crazy fun.

if you get there Monday morning, look for me:
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Post by Savannah » Tue May 10, 2011 12:58 pm

Hey now........I'm a very demure fellow.......and, I did a couple of gate shifts last year.....and will again this year. Opening Monday morning.........crazy fun.
It's too late to work this "demure" angle . . . C187 and VeganChoirGirl cancel out your modesty. Rakes and hoydens, the lot of ya!

I'll be coming in on the eve of Friday 8/26, if this year shakes out like last year, and due to crushing boredom at the gate @ that day and time, I expect another 15 minute search. :D

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Post by ygmir » Tue May 10, 2011 1:27 pm

Savannah wrote:
Hey now........I'm a very demure fellow.......and, I did a couple of gate shifts last year.....and will again this year. Opening Monday morning.........crazy fun.
It's too late to work this "demure" angle . . . C187 and VeganChoirGirl cancel out your modesty. Rakes and hoydens, the lot of ya!

I'll be coming in on the eve of Friday 8/26, if this year shakes out like last year, and due to crushing boredom at the gate @ that day and time, I expect another 15 minute search. :D
those two are lascivious, debaucherous, desert rascals, of ill repute and sullied character!!!
never believe what they say about me.........

I may well be working gate on Friday, or Saturday, as well........
I'm hoping to have my tux by then, but, if not, prolly a black slicker, cowboy hat, and boots.......
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Post by Bob » Tue May 10, 2011 2:02 pm

Why 6pm, is that when the BLM's per diem clock clicks over to the following day?
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Post by Lord Of Ruin » Tue May 10, 2011 4:15 pm

Bob wrote:Why 6pm, is that when the BLM's per diem clock clicks over to the following day?
Actually, many of the departments at TTITD have adopted the 12/6 changeover model.

Oh...and rumor has it that many parties involved wanted it (both last year and this) to be much earlier than 6 pm, but that's as far as BLM and some in the Org would budge.

Compromise...it's what's for dinner.

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Post by C187 » Tue May 10, 2011 5:13 pm

ygmir wrote:...those two are lascivious, debaucherous, desert rascals, of ill repute and sullied character!!! ...
I think that's the first complement I've ever received on eplaya.
Savannah wrote:...I expect another 15 minute search. :D
*grabs latex glove* Hush now, we wouldn't want your romantic partner to be concerned again. *snaps latex glove on wrist*

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Post by rawxtir » Tue May 10, 2011 6:26 pm

what will help more than anything else is for folks to come prepared and help the gayte alleviate the build up of thousands of cars when the event begins. . . . . . By prepared, I'm referring to everything that happens before and up until you get to greeters tee pee trash fence area. ..... .. . .. . .... . ..... ... from how you pack your car to keeping your tickets on you in a secure place (not holding them out in the wind to blow away), use rested and registered drivers, and have enough gasoline with you. As long and hard of a journey as it may be, the time to engage in extracurricular activities and alcohol consumption is once you get well inside the city NOT while your waiting on gate road, even if yes, it takes you hours and hours. ...... . . ... . . ... . . ... ... it will be a great day when folks bring less items that are not allowed such as plants, animals, moopy/feathery items, and fireworks. And please please please like James Brown, if you have your ticket being held at will call: go with the entire car you came with. Thinking that you will find them at the gate is understandable but rarely the case. Folks walking in and around gate road slows things down tremendously, is dangerous (yes seriously, an rv driver who can barely see, even while going 5 miles an hour is still going to cause significant damage to your foot and or leg.) It also takes much more time than would otherwise to "babysit" and keep track of the random will callers searching for their caravan that is long gone. There are only so many gayte volunteers busting their ass so y'all can get in to the city and any "special needs" person or persons slooooows the process down. ................ All this applies to any and whatever time the gates actually open. Which is still in negotiation so how about getting all the people you know who go to think about the issues that slooooow everyone doooown. ....... lastly tune in to BMIR as soon as you are able once you get in the area. Seriously. Thank you for your time and may the unicorns be with you.
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Post by Savannah » Tue May 10, 2011 6:31 pm

I think that's the first complement I've ever received on eplaya.
Not true. My only slightly slanderous claim that you are a rake precedes ygmir's statement by 29 minutes.

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Post by Sail Man » Wed May 11, 2011 9:03 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Aha. Well, if that's what LE wants... I was going to treat this as a joke, pretty much for the reason Shamballa said.
Ahhh so, and if Shambala said he wanted AntiM to spank his bare ass would you say it as well? :P

Or maybe you'd prefer to oblige him instead

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Post by Sail Man » Wed May 11, 2011 9:03 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Aha. Well, if that's what LE wants... I was going to treat this as a joke, pretty much for the reason Shamballa said.
Ahhh so, and if Shambala said he wanted AntiM to spank his bare ass would you say you want it as well? :P

Or maybe you'd prefer to oblige him instead

:lol:
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Post by The Hustler » Wed May 11, 2011 9:40 am

rawxtir wrote:what will help more than anything else is for folks to come prepared and help the gayte alleviate the build up of thousands of cars when the event begins. . . . . . By prepared, I'm referring to everything that happens before and up until you get to greeters tee pee trash fence area. ..... .. . .. . .... . ..... ... from how you pack your car to keeping your tickets on you in a secure place (not holding them out in the wind to blow away), use rested and registered drivers, and have enough gasoline with you. As long and hard of a journey as it may be, the time to engage in extracurricular activities and alcohol consumption is once you get well inside the city NOT while your waiting on gate road, even if yes, it takes you hours and hours. ...... . . ... . . ... . . ... ... it will be a great day when folks bring less items that are not allowed such as plants, animals, moopy/feathery items, and fireworks. And please please please like James Brown, if you have your ticket being held at will call: go with the entire car you came with. Thinking that you will find them at the gate is understandable but rarely the case. Folks walking in and around gate road slows things down tremendously, is dangerous (yes seriously, an rv driver who can barely see, even while going 5 miles an hour is still going to cause significant damage to your foot and or leg.) It also takes much more time than would otherwise to "babysit" and keep track of the random will callers searching for their caravan that is long gone. There are only so many gayte volunteers busting their ass so y'all can get in to the city and any "special needs" person or persons slooooows the process down. ................ All this applies to any and whatever time the gates actually open. Which is still in negotiation so how about getting all the people you know who go to think about the issues that slooooow everyone doooown. ....... lastly tune in to BMIR as soon as you are able once you get in the area. Seriously. Thank you for your time and may the unicorns be with you.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed May 11, 2011 10:35 am

Sail Man wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:Aha. Well, if that's what LE wants... I was going to treat this as a joke, pretty much for the reason Shamballa said.
Ahhh so, and if Shambala said he wanted AntiM to spank his bare ass would you say you want it as well? :P

Or maybe you'd prefer to oblige him instead

:lol:
I wouldn't need Shambala to say that to recommend it be done.
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Post by Charlie Parker » Wed May 11, 2011 11:16 am

What is the BMIR dial number on the playa?

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Post by Minxy » Wed May 11, 2011 11:22 am

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Post by Token » Wed May 11, 2011 12:42 pm

Gate has opened early more or less every year since the "strict" enforcement policy was imposed by the BLM.

AFAIK, it has always been at the request if the constable, be it traffic concerns, local community impact, or inclement weather.

The underlying motive is safety.

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Post by graidawg » Wed May 11, 2011 3:33 pm

ygmir wrote:
Savannah wrote:
Hey now........I'm a very demure fellow.......and, I did a couple of gate shifts last year.....and will again this year. Opening Monday morning.........crazy fun.
It's too late to work this "demure" angle . . . C187 and VeganChoirGirl cancel out your modesty. Rakes and hoydens, the lot of ya!

I'll be coming in on the eve of Friday 8/26, if this year shakes out like last year, and due to crushing boredom at the gate @ that day and time, I expect another 15 minute search. :D
those two are lascivious, debaucherous, desert rascals, of ill repute and sullied character!!!
never believe what they say about me.........

I may well be working gate on Friday, or Saturday, as well........
I'm hoping to have my tux by then, but, if not, prolly a black slicker, cowboy hat, and boots.......
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Post by lucky420 » Wed May 11, 2011 3:59 pm

Yes ygmir if you are working gate, please keep your eyes open. Would'nt want you to get run over before I even meet ya :wink:

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Post by ygmir » Wed May 11, 2011 4:04 pm

I'm ever alert!!!

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Post by Dr. Pyro » Wed May 11, 2011 7:35 pm

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Re: From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.

Post by Steppy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:04 pm

BUMPPITY BUMP BUMP

This has been confirmed by more than one source. Gates will definately "soft open" at 6 pm on Sunday.

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Post by CapSmashy » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:46 am

Interesting
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Re: From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.

Post by Savannah » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:59 am

I admit that I (personally) would not aim for 6pm unless I saw it on the main site, the Jack Rabbit Speaks newsletter or was given the info by the Gatey Glamazons or early arrival volunteers of my acquaintance, but--since I won't be entering the city at either 6pm or 12:01am--I am happy that this may occur again.

I hope Steppy doesn't mind my stubbornness. We get some weird things from new posters . . . usually never anything good. (Can we learn to love again?)

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Re: From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.

Post by junglesmacks » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:35 am

It seems to me that Steppy and others have forgotten the first rule about Fight Club..
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Post by Dr Jet Sinister » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:50 am

Minxy wrote:While I bet they do open the gates again early, I do wish people wouldn't blab about it and make it common knowledge. :P Wishful thinking, I know.

I understood the reasoning for it when it occurred (I was cruising around the trash fence after working at Greeters watching the ridiculous traffic) but I was concerned how it would effect this year's opening.

As Shambala said, it's just going to make the traffic jam start earlier...that doesn't seem very productive!
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Re: From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.

Post by portaplaya » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:28 pm

Here is what happens when people arrive early:

Anyone arriving to "get in line" is put in D-Lot. This is a punative measure meant to be a deterrent. First person into D-Lot will be the last person out of D-Lot.

Once D-Lot is full, unfortunately Gate has no choice but to line them up for the gate.

When midnight comes, or earlier if BLM and/or Nevada State Patrol tell the org to open the gates.
Then five lanes of traffic from the road are searched and tickets are taken; meanwhile one lane from D-Lot also enters the city.
Traffic from both the highway and D-Lot are still entering the city at dawn, as seen in this photo:

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Re: From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.

Post by Savannah » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:40 pm

Ah, the Lane of Shame. :lol:

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Re: From a great source: Gates will definately open at 6 p.

Post by illy dilly » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:18 pm

What do you think for timing...
Leave the Wal-Mart in Fernley at 9:30, grab every last drop of gas you can, then start heading towards BRC. Going slow at night, should put you there at about Mid-Night?
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