Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:02 am

What's all this obsession with guy lines? Can't we have gal lines, too?
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby moonrise » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:08 am

FIGJAM wrote:Well, with my set up done, I can now attend the event for under $1000.

Now I'm working on a shade design for moonrises horse trailer that has no stakes or guylines. 8)


Yup, and I'm getting ready to make the call, this week, to order the aluminet, for your brilliant desgin, truly brilliant!

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:06 am

theCryptofishist wrote:What's all this obsession with guy lines? Can't we have gal lines, too?


Guylines are sexist!

Thats why I'm doing away with them. 8)
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby ygmir » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:12 am

FIGJAM wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:What's all this obsession with guy lines? Can't we have gal lines, too?


Guylines are sexist!

Thats why I'm doing away with them. 8)



there's a company here, that sells the casting polyurethane, in different viscosities and such, and it can even be made to "foam". I wonder, if it could be poured inside the EMT you're using, to add rigidity? If light enough, but "full", I bet it'd stiffen the conduit substantially.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby gyre » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:19 am

That will work.

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Canoe » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:04 am

ygmir wrote:there's a company here, that sells the casting polyurethane, in different viscosities and such, and it can even be made to "foam". I wonder, if it could be poured inside the EMT you're using, to add rigidity? If light enough, but "full", I bet it'd stiffen the conduit substantially.

In addition to the Hope Depot type sealing foam, available in both rigid and flexible versions, there are "spray" cans of foam available that are typically used in custom industrial manufacture. These foams are intended to be sprayed inside a tube or cavity. They come in rigid (normal), flexible and structural versions. It's been twenty years since I worked with them; I assume they're still around?
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:42 pm

bump
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby BlackRockCityPimp » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:26 pm

FIGJAM wrote:bump


thanks... pure genius

I especially like the little extras, charging posts, outlets, and the awning/shade. Whats nice about what you illustrate in this thread is that the design can be slightly altered easily for bigger trailer thus getting a bigger pod if its need for a group of people. Only thing I would alter is having the bed a little bigger and moveable since I tend to stretch out and like to sleep outside sometimes. Thanks for posting the pix and sharing your work with us. Have you considered sharing this with instructables, ehow, and the like? Alot of people outside of BRC would love this.

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:09 am

The bed is not ancored to the pod.

If the pod was 4" wider, I would have put it across the end, doubled the width, and hinged it to fold up with no need for legs. 8)
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby ygmir » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:23 am

I got a 5x5x10 enclosed W*%%( Car*& trailer the other day.....I'm thinking of making one of your fab rigs, from it.
And, if I don't get time, I know someone else could do it........

yer a genius, FJ!!
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:38 am

I'd love to see a pic.

If it's 5' between the wheels, I'd consider widening the frame to the outside of the wheelwells for the extra space.

If it's already enclosed, that might be tougher. 8)
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby ygmir » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:52 am

FIGJAM wrote:I'd love to see a pic.

If it's 5' between the wheels, I'd consider widening the frame to the outside of the wheelwells for the extra space.

If it's already enclosed, that might be tougher. 8)



yeah already enclosed.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:14 am

ygmir wrote:
FIGJAM wrote:I'd love to see a pic.

If it's 5' between the wheels, I'd consider widening the frame to the outside of the wheelwells for the extra space.

If it's already enclosed, that might be tougher. 8)



yeah already enclosed.


That's exactly what I was going to buy originaly, but the more I looked at having to crouch and the cost of the ones I found, it was cheaper to design my own.

The other thing was the gap where the wood and sheeting come together at the inside top corners.

I would'nt want water to get in that gap when I hosed it out. 8)

The first thing I would do with yours is make the inside white so I could see better and it would be less dreary.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:07 am

Bibbity bobbity bump! 8)
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Postby Canoe » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:09 am

Elliot wrote:Even better: NyLock nuts. Takes more time to install, but they will NEVER come off. :D

How do NyLock nuts hold up in heat?
Any concerns?
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby gyre » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:34 am

What kind of heat?

There are locking threads for higher torque loads and temperatures.

A tip about locktite is to never close the bottle tight.
That's how they go bad.

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Canoe » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:11 pm

Playa heat?
Say air 95F max, plus any additional if they're in the sun?
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby motskyroonmatick » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:59 pm

Canoe wrote:Playa heat?
Say air 95F max, plus any additional if they're in the sun?


Not an issue with normal atmospheric temperatures.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Thorormr » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:26 pm

motskyroonmatick wrote:
Canoe wrote:Playa heat?
Say air 95F max, plus any additional if they're in the sun?


Not an issue with normal atmospheric temperatures.


Definitely a non-issue if the ambient temperature remains survivable. Nylocks generally have a nylon or other malleable plastic insert (thus the vernacular inclusion for similar products) so unless the temperature gets hot enough to melt plastic, which some nylons will melt around 350F losing structure slightly below that, it won't be a problem. If they are holding critical components together you may want to consider something else like nord locks or even toothed washers. The nylon is good for sealing the threads and stopping the nut from spinning off the bolt if it shakes loose but it doesn't really bond.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Canoe » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:26 pm

Thanks!
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby gyre » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:34 pm

Nylon is mostly good for light load, high vibration resistance, in my experience.

There is also double nutting with jam nuts or other.
A jam nut with a locknut on top works well, bearing grades required in mind.
Castle or other nuts for safety ties or flagging for security.

When possible I use flat and lock washers at a minimum.

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Canoe » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:54 am

gyre wrote:Nylon is mostly good for light load, high vibration resistance, in my experience.

There is also double nutting with jam nuts or other.
A jam nut with a locknut on top works well, bearing grades required in mind.
Castle or other nuts for safety ties or flagging for security.

When possible I use flat and lock washers at a minimum.

Where would you place semi- & permanent Locktite in that?
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby gyre » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:52 pm

It's effective when used properly.

Many use it a lot to save money on hardware.

I recently used it on a rifle receiver where other locking methods are not viable.
High grade, but small hardware.
The threads are the weak point.


There's a good book on hardware by Carrol Smith.
http://www.carrollsmith.com/books/nutsbolts.html

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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:55 am

Everything worked as designed!!! 8)

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Wind was about 25mph when these pics were taken.

Plenty of time to build for your burn!!! 8)
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Ratty » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:39 am

Wow!! Great set up. I'm very impressed. I sleep in my van but I need a new shade structure this year and yours will be perfect when adapted to my roof rack. I don't think I would leave it extended in a wind storm. I'm not sure how securely roof racks are attached.
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Postby Dr Jet Sinister » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:31 pm

I am constantly amazed by your ingenuity FJ. :)
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Postby AntiM » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:00 am

Ratty wrote:Wow!! Great set up. I'm very impressed. I sleep in my van but I need a new shade structure this year and yours will be perfect when adapted to my roof rack. I don't think I would leave it extended in a wind storm. I'm not sure how securely roof racks are attached.



Somewhere buried on this board is the story of a shade structure suspended from RV roof racks, two or three RVs, I think. High up, making a nice, large lounging area. Hard to get to in a hurry and lower. Torn off at least one of the roof racks in a sudden blow, ripped it right out of the metal. That had to be expensive when they turned it in.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:03 am

My current ideas for shade using roof racks involve the rack as support without actualy attaching the shade to the rack.

The shade is ancored to the ground only so that if the worst happens, the grommets rip out and only the tarp can fly away. 8)
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby Canoe » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:26 am

FIGJAM wrote:My current ideas for shade using roof racks involve the rack as support without actualy attaching the shade to the rack.
The shade is ancored to the ground only so that if the worst happens, the grommets rip out and only the tarp can fly away. 8)

Watch out that the wind moves the tarp back and forth over a support, or the support is on a vehicle rocking in the wind, the tarp abrades and wears a hole or even in half.
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Re: Travel trailer, cargo trailer or.....

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:51 am

The shade material will be be stretched tight enough to prevent rubbing.
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