Eric wrote:So stop thinking of it as a lottery, and think of it as a random draw for your tier.
Stop thinking of the Black Rock Desert as a desert, and think of it as a hot, dry, sandy place. I'm sorry, I really don't see a difference.
Eric wrote:Is there a chance more than 40k people will enter the main drawing? Yes, but absolutely NO ONE can say for sure because IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
You're stating the obvious. I think we all agree on this already. It's the possibility of the event, not the certainty, that we're worried about. More to the point, it's not even the possibility, but the incentives created by the possibility, that I'm worried about. You see the distinction?
The way the system is designed, IF there is a possibility of selling out (and you just acknowledged that there is), then there is an incentive for people to (in your words) "hoard" tickets, which further increases the possibility of selling out, which further increases the incentive. I'm saying: if the system were designed right, nobody would be hoarding tickets, because it wouldn't increase your chances of getting them! I don't understand what part of that you disagree with -- in fact, you haven't disagreed with any of it yet.
Eric wrote:Physical tickets do not get mailed out until June- if you "resell" before then you have to hope to find a buyer who will by them without you having anything physical to actually sell- basically they'll be buying on spec.
Hmm, that does make things much more difficult. That does, in fact, make me much less likely to request extra tickets. I honestly don't want to be that much of a dick, and I also don't want to be one of possibly (though, as we all agree, we don't know for sure) thousands of people trying to get rid of tickets at the last minute. However, now I'm even more upset by the way the lottery is designed, because the lottery really does incentivize total dickery, not just minor inconveniencing.
Eric wrote:And, yes, I would call someone who hoards an ass on the playa itself, just like I do here
And I think you're the exception, rather than the rule. I don't hear a lot of name-calling on the playa. Out there, when someone does something you think is inappropriate, most people explain rationally why they feel that behavior is inappropriate. Usually, this leads to the person actually changing their behavior. (Name-calling usually does not.)
Eric wrote:well, guess what, I'm entering for my one, confident I'll get it.
But... didn't you just say that they might sell out? Then how can you be "confident" that you'll get one? (In goofy Inigo Montoya voice: I do not think it means what you think it means.)
Eric wrote:If I don't, and I hear hoarders talking about the extras they got, you can sure as fuck be certain I won't be blaming the LLC for the fact I didn't get a ticket, and I bet a lot of other folks won't be blaming them either.
If the city I lived in banned locks on doors, and then I got robbed, I'd sure as heck blame the city, not just the robber who decided to take advantage of the city's crappy policy.
That's the one thing I don't understand: aren't you upset that the LLC is effectively giving people a good reason to screw you over by requesting extra tickets they don't need?
(And in fact, lots of people do blame the LLC for the fact that scalping is possible. I personally don't, because I appreciate the philosophical and logistical reasons for them to not track individual tickets, but if somebody else feels differently, I don't think they're wrong, they just have a different opinion, possibly on some very complex and subtle philosophical issues with wide-reaching implications. Which is not only ok, but actually inevitable. If they want to discuss it, that's fine. If they want to resort to name-calling, I'd rather leave. And yet, I'm still here... dammit.)