People lost all sense of reality when they started SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on a fucking one week party in the desert when there's HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HUMAN BEINGS DYING as a result of said party. YOU want to get all HIGH AND FUCKING MIGHTY about needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. What about the impoverished children working in sweatshops in 3rd world countries to build countless shitty blinky LED products for our party. What about the MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FOSSIL FUELS consumed at our party that in turn will influence Oil companies to buy out our government and instigate war where HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE. Fake fur = made from plastic, which is made from petroleum. How many Iraqis had to die so we can go to our fucking party? Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
No, the costs of globalization (which are serious) are not the same as the costs of war. I mean, are you trolling? You can't actually be serious, right?
I would bet if you put it to a vote and asked the burner community if they would be willing to have names on tickets they would overwhelmingly say yes.
As for slowing things down, why not double the greeters? While one person searches your vehicle, the other checks your ID.
Yeah, you're probably right about that first part.
Oh... that second thing... You're so far from making an informed statement that you can't even see where they come from.
leeloo wrote:I think that there might be a simple solution/combination of what others have suggested! That 1. people who are registered to buy tickets already and who will not have gotten tickets will be the only people who can buy tickets with the STEP system for a given period of time before other people who have not tried yet have an opportunity and 2. the tickets will have to be picked up at will call by the new owners of the tickets, that way it will be more difficult for scalpers to sell them on the open market. This might still be a cluster-f#$% however it won't be as many tickets as if you had all of the tickets being sold with names on them/will call.
There's a good idea in here. I don't think it's quite fully formed (because of the huge will call line it would make), but you might be on to something. If nothing else it's not the same ideas that have already been thought about and decided against.
I really don't get this point, the only reason burning man didn't sell out this year was because BM held tickets back. Last year only half the tickets available at that time, sold out, this year every ticket available at this time, sold out. So on that basis alone the system last year was better/fairer. It is the changes made to ticket sales this year that has fuelled this panic.
The opinion about scalpers is based on Professional Scalpers, but I am certain that there are many amateur/opportunist 'scalpers' out there that are happy to pay up front for a 200%+ return in such a short time, for anyone with money to spare such a guaranteed return is greater than any interest you can make in a deposit bank over the same period, even making just $50 is a better return. June isn't that far away.
A hole was dug before Christmas when the 'cool hip burners' who frequent the forums, slated anyone who pointed out possible problems such a system would have, and the same frequent posters are doing it now, the hole may get deeper, then all the defense on this will just start to look like tired worn out failed propaganda. People should have the privilege to be angry, they should be afforded the privilege state it on this forum, they do not need the 'I an holier than you, condensing replies they are getting from some of the regulars in here.
Even if I am lucky enough to get the two tickets my partner applied for, I am now not so looking forward to going back to BM like I was last year.
It sounds like you're implying that this years (perceived soon to be) asellout has nothing to do with last years sellout.
You, and those opportunist scalpers, are counting their chickens before they are hatched. Also, your theory has people with money to spare going through a fair amount of effort in acts they are probably slightly ashamed of in order to make around $400 (or $50). Most of the people I've met with money to spare don't jump through strange immoral hoops in order to make relatively small amounts of money. But you and I are just guessing. Only time will tell.
Come up with something worth a good reply, and you'll get a good reply. From my perspective people have been whining about this process being "broken" before they even knew what the process was. Literally. So, until we actually see how the tickets end up getting distributed I'm tired of hearing people complain about how they weren't distributed well.
serpentine wrote:This lottery system is stupid and has already failed. It is only rewarding procrastinators that did not apply early through this ridiculous "redistribution" scheme. How is this either good or fair?
It's January. Who's procrastinating?
Also, what the hell are you talking about?