wh..sh wrote:yggy, best post EVER!
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
My grandfather was Prisoner of War who had been shot down over Germany and dumped off in a concentration camp where he saw men, women and children executed en masse while SS guard dogs ripped others to pieces. He raised me, and always told me that there were so many slaves and inmates they could have easily overwhelmed the guards and fought for their own freedom but they didn't, so not only did they die by the millions, young men from all around the world had to die by the millions for them as well.
So, I don't buy that quote. Especially because he also said:"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." "Democracy necessarily means a conflict of will and ideas, involving sometimes a war to the knife between different ideas. "
Interestingly enough, you'll never see a hippie put either of THESE on a bumper sticker, and most will try to deny that he actually said them.
I don't say, violence is "never" the answer. If attacked, yes, a violent reaction is reasonable.
and, I beleive you're drawing false equivalences with your analogous examples to Wh..sh's "an eye for an eye........" statement.
the prisoners rising against their tormentors, is not revenge, it's escape and survival.
I your first "red" quote, seems conflicted: "it's better to be violent, if there's violence in our hearts". well ok I see that as a statement, but how does the rest tie into it? cloaking impotence with non violence, it seems, would also be a stand alone statement.
I also don't see how either apply to this discussion.
I fail to see how your second "red" quote applies here, either.
the only thing I can see in common, is the calls and aggrandizement, if not encouraging violence.
I can see, you filled with "righteous indignation", and note in your other post, a frustration with society in general, and it's unfairness and violence.
I agree with much of this, in that society has become "raw", and the ner-do-wells seem to be taking over. I agree, with violent reaction, to violent aggression, or threat thereof.
But, I just feel, you are suggesting a very "over the top" set of actions, regarding scalpers.
I also feel, you're suggesting being "above the law" in your vigilantism, when in this case, lawful means, IMHO, would work.
just some thoughts.