Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

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Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby Theres Always One » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:11 pm

Dear BMORG,

After you have determined how the 10,000 tickets will be distributed, please release the names of the theme camps/artists/mutant vehicles who received tickets in the manual distribution that were previously slotted for the "open sale".

I'd like to see where exactly these tickets went and what these people are bringing to the playa that is more important than anyone else.

Thanks.

P.S. Releasing the number of tickets to each group would be great too.

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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby lemur » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:16 pm

you only want to know so you can know how many eggs to buy..
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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby Elderberry » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:31 pm

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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby Theres Always One » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:54 pm

jkisha wrote::roll:


Hey, I just want to know who got the VIP treatment. I want to see what they are bringing to the playa so I can see "how to do it right".

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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby junglesmacks » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:25 pm

I REALLY REALLY need 300 tickets for my camp, as our shade structure and free gut rot vodka absolutely make up the fabric of Burning Man. It's all over if we can't all go.


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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby trilobyte » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:34 pm

Go read the notes from the theme camp forum (on the 2012 theme camp board). That'll give you an idea of the criteria that they'll be using as they review questionnaires and requests.

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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby lemur » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:35 pm

trilobyte wrote:Go read the notes from the theme camp forum (on the 2012 theme camp board). That'll give you an idea of the criteria that they'll be using as they review questionnaires and requests.


duh!! yer missing the point..

its more about making a statement about the "VIP TREATMENT" than it is about learning how its actually done..

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BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tickets

Postby alt12 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:03 pm

I would like to appeal to the BMORG to make public a list of which theme camps, art projects, mutant vehicles, and volunteer groups received the tickets as well as a breakout of how many. This kind of transparency is the only way to account for the back room process that was recently employed to distribute the last 10,000 tickets that were originally allotted to the general public. You already publish which art projects receive grant funding every year and similar rationale applies here.

Would anyone else like to know which camps, art projects, MVs got received an allotment of tickets?

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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby shykat » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:18 pm

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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby danibel » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:27 pm

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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby The CO » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:37 pm

What difference would it make if they did?
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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby lemur » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:37 pm

viewtopic.php?f=290&t=54283

you were beaten to the punch!
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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby The CO » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:40 pm

Fuck. They're onto us.

We confess.

We all started registering our theme camps & contributing to the community in verifiable ways 4-15 years ago with one purpose in mind:

TO BE ELITIST VIP BASTARDS.

The jig is up guys. No sense in hiding it now.
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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby alt12 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:40 pm

The CO wrote:What difference would it make if they did?


Transparency. It makes all the difference in the world.

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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby The CO » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:42 pm

Ah, right. That way, people will know who to direct their anger at...

Good thing that's cleared up.
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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby alt12 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:42 pm

lemur wrote:http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=54283

you were beaten to the punch!


Good catch, I totally missed that.... Notice my title was more alluring!

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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby alt12 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:46 pm

The CO wrote:Ah, right. That way, people will know who to direct their anger at...

Good thing that's cleared up.


Perhaps that is your anger you are projecting. Personally, I would like to know how these tickets are being distributed. I think it is important that this major decision that affects the whole community be done in transparency. It appears you prefer back room dealing. This would also provide a certain amount of public accountability to this process. I mean if they are truly dedicated to shifting from a for-profit private partnership to a 501c non-profit organization they need to get used to being more transparent and more accountable to the community. This would definitely serve that purpose.

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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby BBadger » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:47 pm

The CO wrote:TO BE ELITIST VIP BASTARDS.

The jig is up guys. No sense in hiding it now.


I bet you're the kind of elitist assholes who buy pre-sale tickets at $30 above highest-tier prices, while sipping your wine on your land yacht MVs.
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Re: Dear BMORG

Postby The CO » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:50 pm

Yea, and we'll also keep the camp going even if there's only 4 of us.

Buncha snooty bastards.
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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby The CO » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:54 pm

What back room dealing? The criteria are well stated. Based on that, I'm willing to trust the people that run the event to decide what they think will contibute to the event.

Are you going to personally go to each camp/et al that gets tickets, and judge them?
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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby lemur » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:02 am

The CO wrote:What difference would it make if they did?


the difference? people would be able to spread the blame around to more than just the 'borg' or the 'bmorg' ..they would begin to also find more reason dislike the camps/projects/mvs/performers/volunteers who dared to receive the offer of assistance from the LLC

you can see this coming about already when people are referring to these people/groups as 'friends of larry' or 'the elites' or 'VIPs'.. and 'back room dealings' ...among other ideas.. none of that is positive..

many people would just use this info to further bolster these negative claims and also further justify how butthurt they are about the whole situation ..i can already foresee the reactions: 'see!! just /LOOK/ at who they REALLY picked!! what am i, chopped liver!?'

the truth, in my mind, is that there really is no real reason for this info to go out... we would gain nothing that would really be of any tangible benefit.. transparency for transparencies sake doesnt work here, not with the heightened emotions we are already witnessing, and not with the potential for abuse of this information... (there is no real potential for abuse by stating how much they paid for JOTS/medical/grants/blm fees)

i saw something i read as being said in jest when a person said 'we can see who is doing it right' .. but really that mindset is, in my mind, just one that serves to justify a belief that the choices made mean the ones not chosen are doing it wrong and therefore excluded

the truth is people/groups/projects are only excluded in this process because of scarcity of resources... we cant pick everyone.. and we saw how happy everyone was with a 'random' (i.e. fair) selection in the lottery.

releasing this info would cause more discontent and more reasons for the naysayers to be even more entrenched ..we neednt feed those bears

people want to justify their anti-borg rage right now.. oh, but in the name of transparency!! yes!! oh, and also yes, to give the LLC practice for when they are a non for profit.. yeah!!

pfft.

just come out and say it for how it really is: I WANT TO SEE THE LIST SO I CAN KNOW WHO TO POINT FINGERS AT

THAT i could respect.. but this hiding behind transparency BS, ..pfft.. lame.
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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby Eric » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:04 am

I've merged the two threads on the identical topic (so you know why 8 or so post in the same idea is floated as the OP)

Title of the thread as been altered to reflect the merge.
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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby Colonel Monk » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:30 am

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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby Raymaker » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:53 am

I want to know, so I can send those camps a crate of champagne each so they can celebrate in style.

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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby nncoco » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:25 am

A lot of people who get selected to receive acccess to tickets are probablly the dedicated folks who come early and stay late setting up and cleaning up the city.

I have to think that the people who complain about how tickets are being distributed have no idea how a temporality city is made for them to enjoy.

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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby Sham » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:12 am

Raymaker wrote:I want to know, so I can send those camps a crate of champagne each so they can celebrate in style.

I'm not sure how much celebrating they will be doing. The tickets that they are allowed to buy are the highest level ones---$390 each. Add that to all the other expenses, and who knows how many of them can afford to attend this year. The people who bust their butts to build these large camps are all in the same position as the rest of us, just trying to get tickets and entry.

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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 am

This is a Secret Society.

Now sit down, shut up, and let the Illuminati Space Nazi Satanists do their jobs.


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Re: Dear BMORG: Please publish who is getting the 10,000 tic

Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:42 am

I fully support the Space Nazi's, and wholeheartedly approve of this new Eugenicized Lottery.


It really does matter, we dont want burners of a lesser "ilk" to waste precious resources and space.
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Re: BRC LLC- Please publish who is getting the 10,000 ticket

Postby C187 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:27 am

alt12 wrote:I would like to appeal to the BMORG to make public a list of which theme camps, art projects, mutant vehicles, and volunteer groups received the tickets as well as a breakout of how many. This kind of transparency is the only way to account for the back room process that was recently employed to distribute the last 10,000 tickets that were originally allotted to the general public. You already publish which art projects receive grant funding every year and similar rationale applies here.

Would anyone else like to know which camps, art projects, MVs got received an allotment of tickets?


Generally speaking tickets that go out to volunteers (or the like) are not included in the number of tickets for sale to the public. The total number of tickets that goes out to these people is listed somewhere for public view. I just can't remember where.. But it is listed.
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