SkeletonMan wrote:So what you're saying is that Burning Man celebrates mindless consumption and that's it? That it's a laugh-worthy, myopic, dipshit idea to even suggest using what's going on at Burning Man to inspire the default world when it comes to issues of climate and sustainability? That these issues are somehow of limit for Burning Man?
Beyond the credibility of Burning Man more like it. You might as well be hosting a free speech convention at China's Great Firewall facilities.
Of course, driving out in the middle of a desert to build a temporary city is not, by definition, sustainable. But Burning Man DOES actually take place in the middle of a desert and I am surprised if the common perception is that we should somehow not stand by this and still use what's going on to inspire the default world even if it means taking a good look at our actions.
Therefore your platform should be to criticize
Burning Man for its location, consumption, and overall resource decadence
rather than use it as a publicity platform
for a cause that is diametrically opposed to what actually takes place at the event. Why don't we have a big chastity parade at Burning Man too? Or a pro-Prohibition rally? Because while Burning Man is not exactly promoting
such things as sex, alcohol consumption, or for that matter pollution, it's not exactly an event taking any efforts to mitigate them.
What about being responsible and stand by ones actions? What about Burning Man being a state of mind rather than a location? This only applies to some of the things that goes on at Burning Man?
No, not it is not. What you might get out of Burning Man
might be a state of mind, but fundamentally Burning Man is an event/festival
. The best part about Burning Man is that it isn't, for the most part, trying to push ideology onto people. For a week we get to enjoy being segregated from the default world and all its ideologies and causes.
Great, you want to participate
and get other people to participate in your "green" campaign. What I'm thinking is that it is a stupid idea because BM is practically the antithesis of a green event so you're losing substantial amounts of credibility
--especially with the default world you're trying to "inspire"--by trying to leverage it for your green platform.
Want to stand by your actions? Don't attend. You're protesting a hugely polluting that does nothing for green causes.
Instead of denying or hiding what's going on I will argue we need to stand by all the activities that make up Burning Man. Pro and counter environment/society beneficial. How else can we honestly expect that the default world would want to listen seriously to anything we have to say?
Nobody here is hiding or denying anything, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Burning Man is not green, and never will be. I'm seeing it for what it is, and how it would be perceived by other people.
How can we expect the default world to listen seriously to anything we have to say? It's called credibility. It starts by not looking like a damn hypocrite.
And for the record, we are merely suggesting to use MVs that are already out there.
So what? How is that any better?