Virgin Gifting

Parasitoid · Post by **Parasitoid** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:53 am

I will take any extra necklaces that C187 doesnt want

They are a great gift and making them is an enjoyable way to spend time.

C187 · Post by **C187** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:46 am

Parasitoid wrote:I will take any extra necklaces that C187 doesnt want

They are a great gift and making them is an enjoyable way to spend time.

Who knows Parasitoid, you might of received a necklace that I denied. If so, then I'm happy for you. But we will never know, now will we?

This does bring up a discussion of sorts that could be useful to the OP, in his or her's quest to come up with a gift to give..

While some may argue that when receiving a gift it's not about what the recipient wants. Since, after all, the act of gift giving is a selfless one, and to say "no" is selfish act. I'd argue that the act of giving physical gifts unprovoked is the selfish act. Even more so when the gift has little to no connection to anything meaningful of that moment. Like if you were walking down 8o'clock, and someone hands you a necklace, then walks off. It's almost akin to walking the main courtyard of a campus during freshman week and receiving a foam "we're #1" finger from the mascot. It's nothing special, and something that you might of not needed or wanted. Let alone had a use for in the end.

Keeping that argument in mind, maybe the question should become less of "what do I gift," and more, "how should I give?" - Since on the typical burner side of the coin we argue for a selfless state of giving. While on the anti-typical side we argue for a thoughtful state of giving. In reality both sides are after the same end result. But both sides see each others path to the end as lesser then ideal. (eg. one produces and consumes while the other doesn't seem to participate to the whole)

Post by **Eric** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:32 am

C187 wrote:While some may argue that when receiving a gift it's not about what the recipient wants. Since, after all, the act of gift giving is a selfless one, and to say "no" is selfish act.

By that definition I am an incredibly selfish person- I've said "no" to more cheap shit than I could possibly remember. I refuse to be part of someones meaningless robotic gift-giving meme.

All of the physical gifts I have accepted (other than food & booze) are from people who gave them to me for a reason. The ones I gift (other than the paper) are done the same.

Someday I'm going to figure out how to make a solar oven that can melt all that cheap plastic down so we can then mix in some playa-dust and make cool coins out of them. Take the crap & make something original.

Hmmm.....

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:59 am

OOOooooooooooo! Cool swirlies!

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:39 pm

1. as a newbie, don't stress over gifts. get the lay of the land and come back next yer with a gift that is unique and appropriate

2. having said that, I am a sucker for necklaces or buttons sporting the theme and year

My gifts:

I serve booze to thirsty peeps

Rilopie · Post by **Rilopie** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:56 pm

Â¡Niers! wrote:I think a good gift idea would be making a bunch of cool stensils and bring some cans of spray paint.
Quick, easy and cool t-shirt printing on the go!

I LOVE this!

C187 · Post by **C187** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:31 am

Eric wrote:
C187 wrote:While some may argue that when receiving a gift it's not about what the recipient wants. Since, after all, the act of gift giving is a selfless one, and to say "no" is selfish act.
By that definition I am an incredibly selfish person- I've said "no" to more cheap shit than I could possibly remember. I refuse to be part of someones meaningless robotic gift-giving meme.

Well then according to the first video, about 2mins in we are assholes.
http://blog.burningman.com/photosvideos ... on-series/
Assholes going against the presumed officially accepted and sponsored line.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:01 am

some of you here know what I gift.

for those who don't know

i gift stones.

made from playa dust and crematory remains of your loved ones.

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

i do it year around

if i can be of service PM me

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:44 am

Eric wrote:
C187 wrote:While some may argue that when receiving a gift it's not about what the recipient wants. Since, after all, the act of gift giving is a selfless one, and to say "no" is selfish act.
By that definition I am an incredibly selfish person- I've said "no" to more cheap shit than I could possibly remember. I refuse to be part of someones meaningless robotic gift-giving meme.

All of the physical gifts I have accepted (other than food & booze) are from people who gave them to me for a reason. The ones I gift (other than the paper) are done the same.

Someday I'm going to figure out how to make a solar oven that can melt all that cheap plastic down so we can then mix in some playa-dust and make cool coins out of them. Take the crap & make something original.

Hmmm.....

Mine end up in my art.

Or re-gifted. Anonymously, in a mailbox.

tamarakay · Post by **tamarakay** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:36 pm

AntiM wrote:
Eric wrote:
C187 wrote:While some may argue that when receiving a gift it's not about what the recipient wants. Since, after all, the act of gift giving is a selfless one, and to say "no" is selfish act.
By that definition I am an incredibly selfish person- I've said "no" to more cheap shit than I could possibly remember. I refuse to be part of someones meaningless robotic gift-giving meme.

All of the physical gifts I have accepted (other than food & booze) are from people who gave them to me for a reason. The ones I gift (other than the paper) are done the same.

Someday I'm going to figure out how to make a solar oven that can melt all that cheap plastic down so we can then mix in some playa-dust and make cool coins out of them. Take the crap & make something original.

Hmmm.....
Mine end up in my art.

Or re-gifted. Anonymously, in a mailbox.

that's funny antim, i was just thinking "wow i wish i had some of that cheap plastic crap to glue and wire to that old funky frame for M's frame shop." so, another 2012 project

Post by **Eric** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:21 pm

C187 wrote:Well then according to the first video, about 2mins in we are assholes.
http://blog.burningman.com/photosvideos ... on-series/
Assholes going against the presumed officially accepted and sponsored line.

Or we can use "Art Speak":

By rejecting the rote expectation that items gifted will be automatically accepted we are forcing participants to step outside their comfort zone, outside of that area where they feel safe, and into a place where they are open to emotions and ideas that they have to delve into to resolve. Expressing ourselves through radical Decommodification, we create an area of instability around the normal processes that have become ingrained in the culture of the event, and create an opening for participants to achieve a new level of understanding.

*heh*

tamarakay · Post by **tamarakay** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:51 pm

Eric wrote:
Or we can use "Art Speak":

By rejecting the rote expectation that items gifted will be automatically accepted we are forcing participants to step outside their comfort zone, outside of that area where they feel safe, and into a place where they are open to emotions and ideas that they have to delve into to resolve. Expressing ourselves through radical Decommodification, we create an area of instability around the normal processes that have become ingrained in the culture of the event, and create an opening for participants to achieve a new level of understanding.

*heh*

sounds grant worthy to me eric

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:51 pm

MFA?

I'm not sure I want to know.

If I ever have a show, I'll consult with you on an artist's statement.

Bexx · Post by **Bexx** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:13 pm

make it something simple..

a Hey and a Hello, a good morning, a good night.. etc. Being helpful is a pretty rad gift.

I have a 1 inch button press that I made a bunch of pins with. I gave these to my camp mates and a few to some people I passed along the way when I was out dootin' around.. Stay away from the plastic shit.. it'll moop up super fast.

ALTHOUGH there was an art piece out in the deep playa that was basically a birds nest. in a net bag there were plastic easter eggs. A sign said take something and leave something - or put the empties into the cage next to it. It was COOL! so I got some silly bands outta it - and put back in some pins! Interactive!

One of the best gifts I got though was a friend that I had just met the day before, came by the next day and asked if I would like a turkey sandwich. She then pulled out some FRESH! whole grain bread, some sliced turkey, some nice lettuce.. we used my mustard - AND there you go. It was possibly the best tasting sammich I had ever had.

So a gift doesn't have to be something you need to put thought into - it can be something spur of the moment out there. It can be buying someone some ice - it can be helping someone set up, it can be watching someones bike while they use the potties..

anything!

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:42 pm

take a big plastic bag to a large sound camp early in the morning and fill it up with trash. You won't believe how wonderful people are to you when you do that. You might find some working blinky lights or other stuff too, and if it's cool, you can give that away with the story of how you found it. It's fun.
I think it's been mentioned, and it bears repeating: "always"... or was it "never?" ... um... The gift should be something that connects you and somebody else for more than __________(fill in the blank)

big baby jesus · Post by **big baby jesus** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:41 pm

Just do nice things for people. The intent is that everyone gives. What you give is up to you.

Herring · Post by **Herring** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm

Elorrum wrote:take a big plastic bag to a large sound camp early in the morning and fill it up with trash.

This seriously sounds like the best gift any virgin could give. If you can't make sweet art to share, like, that would actually be appreciated, and don't want to spend money on supplying everyone with useful supplies, helping to get rid of other people's trash would be way better than contributing to it.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:12 pm

Herring wrote:
Elorrum wrote:take a big plastic bag to a large sound camp early in the morning and fill it up with trash.
This seriously sounds like the best gift any virgin could give. If you can't make sweet art to share, like, that would actually be appreciated, and don't want to spend money on supplying everyone with useful supplies, helping to get rid of other people's trash would be way better than contributing to it.

Do what I do (some years)... take a big trash bag to the porto-potties Sunday morning after the burn, and clean out the beer bottles, cans, dead glowsticks and random used clothing items. The used condoms and discarded panties in the handicapped stall gave me pause. Wear latex gloves. Use a grabber if you're mad enough to grab the safety vest or weird shoes out of the soup. Do not touch the Blue Goo.

Clar-i-ty · Post by **Clar-i-ty** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:28 pm

I think it was my second year, we got a gross of condoms and my kids walked around giving them out.

Herring · Post by **Herring** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:56 pm

^^^^ Very clever, having the consequences of unprotected sex act as reminders of the importance of safe sex.

Edit: Don't get me wrong Clarity, I'm sure your kids are awesome, but I can't think of a better way to promote safe sex.

Clar-i-ty · Post by **Clar-i-ty** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:11 pm

Herring wrote:^^^^ Very clever, having the consequences of unprotected sex act as reminders of the importance of safe sex.

Edit: Don't get me wrong Clarity, I'm sure your kids are awesome, but I can't think of a better way to promote safe sex.

No worries. That was exactly the intent. And yes, my kids are awesome and delightfully twisted burners.

C187 · Post by **C187** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:21 pm

Herring wrote:Don't get me wrong Clarity, I'm sure your kids are awesome, but I can't think of a better way to promote safe sex. :wink:

I had a campmate that would dress up as a fairy during her greeters shifts and hand out condoms to people coming in. She would also bonk their heads and say, "no playa babies!"

goddess_M · Post by **goddess_M** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:57 am

I, too worried about this until I saw this video.

http://www.kern-photo.com/index.php/201 ... xperience/

Â¡Niers! · Post by **Â¡Niers!** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:54 am

As I was rubbing my BF's feet the other night, I was reminded of what I do on a daily basis for my campmates.
I wash, moisturize and massage their feet. All that walking and playa dust can really take a toll on people's feet. I don't mind doing it at all, and love making people feel better.

I thought this would be a great thing to gift to many people.
I'm thinking of setting up some sort of booth on the side of the street and offer passersby a little chunk of heaven.
I'll just need plenty of hand sanitizer, lemon water, and lotion. Perhaps some neosporin as well...to help heal up some open cracks.
Maybe I can even find some cheap packs of socks for those dirty sock wearing peeps. After a job like that, you don't wanna put your feet back in dirty playa socks.

Maybe I could recruit some help if it's a popular service.

Sound good?

Not a virgin here, but thought I'd post here anyway.

Freesponge · Post by **Freesponge** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:48 am

Food and drinks are always a surefire gift if you are unsure. Our gifts have been food or booze and they are always appreciated. Its not like somebody is going to be like "Fuck, what the hell am I supposed to do with this ice cold beer?"

Last year we were thinking of bringing scented bath salts in jars because one of our friends makes them, but that ended up falling through and a jar isn't an easy thing to carry around. Maybe for our neighbors but we will only be bringing a few. This year I'll be bringing condoms, lube, and more beer to gift.

I'm also really good at making balloon animals but I imagine that they will quickly turn into moop so I'll avoid that. :(

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:33 am

2007 on an art car waiting for the Crude Awakening spectacle. I had been drinking tropical drinks all damn week primarily because of my tiki bar and being the bartender. I muttered to my friend how I would love nothing more than an ice cold beer. A fellow I hadn't noticed before nudges me and proceeds to pull out an ice cold IPA from a shoulder-slung cooler. Best playa gift ever.

dragonpilot · Post by **dragonpilot** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:38 am

One word: Mardi Gras beads! (OK...two words)

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:42 am

dragonpilot wrote:One word: Mardi Gras beads! (OK...two words)

Oh yeah, and little Burning Men made from pipe-cleaners.....NOT!

lucky420 · Post by **lucky420** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:49 pm

Niers,
foot massage sounds like....heaven

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:24 pm

Â¡Niers! wrote:As I was rubbing my BF's feet the other night, I was reminded of what I do on a daily basis for my campmates.
I wash, moisturize and massage their feet. All that walking and playa dust can really take a toll on people's feet. I don't mind doing it at all, and love making people feel better.

I thought this would be a great thing to gift to many people.
I'm thinking of setting up some sort of booth on the side of the street and offer passersby a little chunk of heaven.
I'll just need plenty of hand sanitizer, lemon water, and lotion. Perhaps some neosporin as well...to help heal up some open cracks.
Maybe I can even find some cheap packs of socks for those dirty sock wearing peeps. After a job like that, you don't wanna put your feet back in dirty playa socks.

Maybe I could recruit some help if it's a popular service.

Sound good?

Not a virgin here, but thought I'd post here anyway.

Sound good? Hell, that's a great gift.

JK

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