CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Token » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:18 pm

Oh cmmon, I was fucking around with that!

It’s total nonsense for reasons we discussed above ... the whole temporal paradox of pandemic response. ;)

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by ygmir » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:34 am

Token wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:18 pm
Oh cmmon, I was fucking around with that!

It’s total nonsense for reasons we discussed above ... the whole temporal paradox of pandemic response. ;)
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by A-RockLeFrench » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:31 pm

Here’s a very informative graph I found on the interwebs today:
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by lucky420 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:17 pm

Hahahahaha ^^
Oh my god, it's HUGE!

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by 666isMONEY » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:36 am

Main sale postponed because of Covid19:
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/03/ ... 091247002/
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by XPTom » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 am

I can 't seem to find the "What happens if we stay closed too long?" article.  In short:    We wake up to a post apocalyptic economy; no jobs to go back to; monopoly money in our wallets; and govt aid is a meaningless exercise in hyperinflation. We will still be dying for lack of Covid19 vaccine, plus also dying of previously treatable ailments because we attritted irreplaceable healthcare workers while thinking we could flatten the curve indefinitely.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by A-RockLeFrench » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 am

So either we all die cause of the virus or we all die cause capitalism collapses?

What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.

3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by 666isMONEY » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:32 am

A-RockLeFrench wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 am
3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
Yep, we just proved we can live without all these unnecessary businesses!

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Token » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:39 pm

A-RockLeFrench wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 am
So either we all die cause of the virus or we all die cause capitalism collapses?

What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.

3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
A billion people in China laugh out loud at that!

Communism for EVERYONE!!!

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by ygmir » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:25 pm

A-RockLeFrench wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 am
So either we all die cause of the virus or we all die cause capitalism collapses?

What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.

3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
hahaha, really?
"WE" ,yeah, or do you mean you think that can happen because someone else will pay for it?
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by DoctorIknow » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:41 pm

I posted elsewhere on eplaya, but just having this thread topic start with "CoVid-19" means this vid could be appreciated by some burners here:

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by A-RockLeFrench » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm

Asking who's going to pay for it or inferring similarity to a monetarily based economic exchange is completely irrelevant.

Read it again.

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by some seeing eye » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:54 pm

Here is an item for your fevered thinking cap.

The 2018 census suggests that 10% of burners come from outside the US and Canada.

The virus is going to be cycling on different curves with their own timescales in each country around the world. The Donald may be imposing travel bans or 14/x-day quarantines on arrivers from any country, as well as any number of health tests, at any time last minute. So if you are an international ticket holder anything could happen.

If the BORG in its infinite wisdom decides to hold the 2020 event, it might be a good idea to make all tickets capable of secure electronic exchange through the ticket vendor.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by some seeing eye » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:45 am

For some humor on a serious topic from Hawaii:
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by XPTom » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:29 pm

….but what if the air in the tank has some virus in it?? ….oh no!!!!!!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:47 pm

A-RockLeFrench wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm
Asking who's going to pay for it or inferring similarity to a monetarily based economic exchange is completely irrelevant.

Read it again.
Where does the housing and food and medical service come from?
Who does the work?
What is anyone’s incentive to work at all?
They get everything free anyway, right?
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by A-RockLeFrench » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:44 pm

geez I don't fucking know why does anyone ever help anyone ever or do anything worthwhile??? The argument that we need money to motivate people to help each other out is pretty fucking thin right now as people are literally dying by the thousands because a profit-motivated system is an egregious fucking failure.

Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?

Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by lucky420 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:19 pm

A-RockLeFrench wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:44 pm
geez I don't fucking know why does anyone ever help anyone ever or do anything worthwhile??? The argument that we need money to motivate people to help each other out is pretty fucking thin right now as people are literally dying by the thousands because a profit-motivated system is an egregious fucking failure.

Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?

Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by some seeing eye » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:00 pm

Festival Case May Be Preview Of COVID-19 Consumer Suits
Law360 (April 2, 2020, 5:13 PM EDT) --

The rapid spread of COVID-19 and related government public safety mandates have caused numerous companies to make difficult business decisions, as well as reassess their ongoing business practices. As companies prepare for the road ahead, a new lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court about a music festival’s refund and exchange policy may signal the direction that the plaintiffs bar will pursue in consumer class action litigation arising out of the immediate fallout of the coronavirus.

https://www.law360.com/articles/1259168 ... umer-suits

The venue is LA County where LIB is likely incorporated. It would probably be some time before a decision, appeals etc. But likely the BORG attorneys are reading the briefs and revising the fine prints.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by fireheadwhale » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:14 am

lucky420 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:19 pm
A-RockLeFrench wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:44 pm
geez I don't fucking know why does anyone ever help anyone ever or do anything worthwhile??? The argument that we need money to motivate people to help each other out is pretty fucking thin right now as people are literally dying by the thousands because a profit-motivated system is an egregious fucking failure.

Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?

Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Lonesomebri » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:32 am

"But why will anyone work if they aren't paid?"

On a page about Burning Man.
Hilarious
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Captain Goddammit » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:09 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:32 am
"But why will anyone work if they aren't paid?"

On a page about Burning Man.
Hilarious
Do you all not understand that BRC is a party, paid for by lots of money, not a sustainable real cashless society?

People are dying of Covid-19 because of capitalism? Are you saying if we had a cashless society there’d be no viruses? Or that there’d already be a vaccine if the world had no money?


You really believe everyone around the world will work for free, with zero incentive to work hard except your own moral compass.
Even though everything is free regardless.

But, how dare I point out any flaws in that idea while there’s a virus going around.

OK man... I just have to back right on outta here, shit be getting crazy.

Good luck with all that.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Grumpy Otter » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:45 pm

Of course we are not a real, sustainable cashless society. That does not negate the thousands of Burners who not only volunteer, but pay through the nose to be there. I think there may be a lot of dreamers that believe in the ideal. They are countered by the cynical plug and players and their gophers. Overall, I prefer not to be the cynic about all the amazing aspects of BRC. My biggest focus is on the massive and myriad art, and the incredible concept of creating it in such a remote and inhospitable environment. I appreciate the positive interaction with most other Burners, and the spontaneous meetings and friendships. But I also recognize that the background that maintains it all has to be in the real, hard nosed world of business and government. There are people making a very good living off this. That is what I see as the price for what is still a positive idea and experience. Do not blow off the unpaid effort of the volunteers. They are not suckers. They are keeping enough of the dream to make it remarkable for most of us.

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Token » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pm

Y’all is WRONG!

It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.

Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.

It’s gonna be fucking awesome!

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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by ygmir » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:35 am

Token wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pm
Y’all is WRONG!

It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.

Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.

It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
I mean, with mind control, they'll make us think we're happy. As such, we won't know the difference, so, it's a win/win!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by some seeing eye » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:05 am

Token wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pm
Y’all is WRONG!

It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.

Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.

It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
Hahaha! No invisible rogue codes!

The obvious answer is to ban all electromagnetic waves and viruses from BRC!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event

Post by Token » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:12 am

ygmir wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:35 am
Token wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pm
Y’all is WRONG!

It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.

Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.

It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
I mean, with mind control, they'll make us think we're happy. As such, we won't know the difference, so, it's a win/win!
We have a BINGO!

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