Possible Dust Health Issues?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:51 pm

http://discovermagazine.com/2009/feb/14 ... tics-loses

I looked for a previous thread about this, but found 10000 matches!!!!

Any thoughts?

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Tue May 19, 2009 6:27 pm

About Valley Fever you mean?

phil · Post by **phil** » Tue May 19, 2009 6:51 pm

Before the hysteria spreads, do we know how many people have gotten this fungus on the playa? Sheesh. We've got enough paranoia about swine flu and Y2K.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:03 pm

I know one, but he had more than casual exposure.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:11 am

So this may exist on the playa?
There was a thread asking about chronic cough from dust exposure.
Search seems useless though.

Is it possible they were talking about this?

SilverOrange · Post by **SilverOrange** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:30 am

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 6&start=60
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... idomycosis
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... idomycosis

Here's a couple of the previous "playa lung" threads.

Fire_Moose · Post by **Fire_Moose** » Wed May 20, 2009 7:49 am

If you go to BurningMan you will die.....deal with it

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:14 am

Fire_Moose wrote:If you go to BurningMan you will die.....deal with it

Well, thats not exactly a given. Jump in front of a semi, thats a given. I'll take my chance with the Burn, thank you.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed May 20, 2009 9:18 am

From CMR:

Coccidioidomycosis is caused by the dimorphic fungi in the genus Coccidioides. These fungi live as mycelia in the soil of desert areas of the American Southwest, and when the infectious spores, the arthroconidia, are inhaled, they convert into the parasitic spherule/endospore phase. Most infections are mild, but these organisms are frank pathogens and can cause severe lethal disease in fully immunocompetent individuals.

Oh, yeah, wear a dust mask or at least carry a scarf.

From Wikipedia:

The disease is usually mild, with flu-like symptoms and rashes, the Mayo Clinic estimates that half the population in some affected areas have suffered from the disease. On occasion, those particularly susceptible, including pregnant women, people with weakened immune systems, and those of Asian, Hispanic and African descent, may develop a serious or even fatal illness from valley fever. Serious complications include severe pneumonia, lung nodules, and disseminated disease, where the fungus spreads throughout the body. The disseminated form of valley fever can devastate the body, causing skin ulcers and abscesses to bone lesions, severe joint pain, heart inflammation, urinary tract problems, meningitis, and death.

It has been known to infect humans, dogs, cattle, livestock, llamas, apes, monkeys, kangaroos, wallabies, tigers, bears, badgers, otters and marine mammals.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed May 20, 2009 6:11 pm

Sail Man wrote:
Fire_Moose wrote:If you go to BurningMan you will die.....deal with it
Well, thats not exactly a given. Jump in front of a semi, thats a given. I'll take my chance with the Burn, thank you. :roll:

So you are immortal, except for the semis? You may be looking for a Semi in a couple of thousand years out of sheer boredom.

Post by **mdmf007** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:09 pm

I am thinking more people have died driving to and from the playa for whatever reason they want to go there whether it is: BM, camping, shooting, rocketeering, Land Speed Racing, hiking, etc, than die from any type of Fungus, dust borne illness, meteor strike, rabies infection from transient bats.

Just my opinion for what its worth. I stopped worrying about the desert illnesses in Northern Nevada years ago - someone else always makes up those statistics.

(knocking on wood)

phil · Post by **phil** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:35 pm

I'd bet on more deaths going to and from Burning Man alone (I wouldn't count the other activities) than from Valley Fever.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:52 pm

Beware the zombie playa chicken.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:03 am

Them's good eatin'.

Post by **mdmf007** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:39 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Them's good eatin'.

Make sure to cook to an internal temperature of 160 degrees.

Bounce530 · Post by **Bounce530** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:44 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
Sail Man wrote:
Fire_Moose wrote:If you go to BurningMan you will die.....deal with it
Well, thats not exactly a given. Jump in front of a semi, thats a given. I'll take my chance with the Burn, thank you.
So you are immortal, except for the semis? You may be looking for a Semi in a couple of thousand years out of sheer boredom.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:05 pm

mdmf007 wrote:I am thinking more people have died driving to and from the playa for whatever reason they want to go there whether it is: BM, camping, shooting, rocketeering, Land Speed Racing, hiking, etc, than die from any type of Fungus, dust borne illness, meteor strike, rabies infection from transient bats.

Just my opinion for what its worth. I stopped worrying about the desert illnesses in Northern Nevada years ago - someone else always makes up those statistics.

(knocking on wood)

Good point. The statistics that they've made up about the event is that there are fewer deaths than in a regular city in the same period of time. So maybe the event saves lives. Excuse me, maybe our imaginings of the city saves imaginary lives.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri May 22, 2009 8:33 am

Trust in Allah, but tie your camel to a post.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri May 22, 2009 9:23 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Trust in Allah, but tie your camel to a post.

isn't that the "coming of age chant" for middle eastern boys?.............

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sat May 23, 2009 8:24 am

I know how badly you want everything to be a homosexual double-entendre (for some reason)

but here is the sauce:

One day Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it and he asked the Bedouin, "Why don't you tie down your camel?" The Bedouin answered, "I put my trust in Allah." The Prophet then said, "Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allah" (At-Tirmidhi).

http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Sat ... FDIELayout

It's about being prepared.

Oldguy · Post by **Oldguy** » Sun May 24, 2009 3:42 am

"God helps those who help themselves"- Ben Franklin

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun May 24, 2009 6:02 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:I know how badly you want everything to be a homosexual double-entendre (for some reason) but here is the sauce:

One day Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it and he asked the Bedouin, "Why don't you tie down your camel?" The Bedouin answered, "I put my trust in Allah." The Prophet then said, "Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allah" (At-Tirmidhi).
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Sat ... FDIELayout

It's about being prepared.

hardly homosexual, but, certainly, double entendre,,,,,,,,and, for me, immaturely funny..........hahahaha, in a Don Rickles sense.........

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun May 24, 2009 8:46 am

Oldguy wrote:"God helps those who help themselves"- Ben Franklin

I think Aesop beat Ben to it.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:10 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
Oldguy wrote:"God helps those who help themselves"- Ben Franklin
I think Aesop beat Ben to it.

would Ben have been plagiarizing, or, paraphrasing, since, I don't think Aesop was Xtian.........or Catholic............

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon May 25, 2009 1:13 pm

ygmir wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
Oldguy wrote:"God helps those who help themselves"- Ben Franklin
I think Aesop beat Ben to it.
would Ben have been plagiarizing, or, paraphrasing, since, I don't think Aesop was Xtian.........or Catholic............

I don't think Franklyn was either.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Mon May 25, 2009 4:20 pm

How about this "silly" bit:

A better burden may no man bear
For wanderings wide than wisdom;
Worse food for the journey he brings not afield
Than an over-drinking of ale.