Sneaking into Burning Man

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Savannah » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:14 pm

gnossos wrote:I hope the actual Playa isn't full of as many snobs as this. What a joke. No matter what you want to call yourself, BM is still nothing but a bunch of hippies to the outside world.. same as a Rainbow Gathering. What a silly concept... rich hippie snobs.


Half the Burners I know are living paycheck to paycheck, saving all year for their various expenses. The guy who said having poor people at the event would ruin the "exclusivity" of the event was 1) a complete newbie who'd never been to the Burn, and 2) was seen pinching pennies--like any of us--when he posted looking for a reduced-price airline ticket. :lol:

The Burn is not anti-poor. It is anti-unprepared.

I'm poor as hell but have always had the dream to make the journey across the country to BM. The hate I see on these boards is enough to make me wanna give that up. It seems like if I did make it I'd be disappointed by the people.


You sound like you might give up a little easily on your dreams. :)

ePlaya is nothing like THE playa. You might be disappointed in the people, you might not be. We're not truly able to tell you what it's going to be like for you, specifically. People who need persuading, coddling, etc don't do so well out there. They generally expect someone else is going to take care of them and are unpleasantly surprised.

You can (often) Burn starting at about $1,000-$1,300, depending on how far away you are and how you're getting there. Here's a thread where people break down what they've spent and how.

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby wh..sh » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:22 pm

Everytime I begin to think I am elite, someone HAS to rain on my parade! DAMN YOU ALL!
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:59 pm

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:00 pm

And really, I don't think we should be encouraging her to attend.

Although, I could be really nasty and call her "know it all."
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Canoe » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:24 pm

As to sneaking past the fence, is the radar still run?
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby gyre » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:33 pm

It's all lasers and infra-red now.

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Canoe » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:37 pm

gyre wrote:It's all lasers and infra-red now.

I assume IR laser for painting IR "radar"?

I was wondering if those thinking of sneaking in past the fence knew what was capable, and with old technology:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10111/4515 ... 1842936376
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10111/5914 ... 1842936376
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Bob » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:06 pm

Rainbow Family doesn't need radar, they have shamanic kung fu psychics who detect bad vibes and vulnerable teenagers.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Canoe » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:09 pm

Bob wrote:Rainbow Family doesn't need radar, they have shamanic kung fu psychics who detect bad vibes and vulnerable teenagers.

If they're going to scan the perimeter of BRC, I'd like to know how they'd filter the noise...
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby ygmir » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:47 pm

Canoe wrote:
Bob wrote:Rainbow Family doesn't need radar, they have shamanic kung fu psychics who detect bad vibes and vulnerable teenagers.

If they're going to scan the perimeter of BRC, I'd like to know how they'd filter the noise...



I"m told wearing strips of foil makes you look like noise as you approach.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby gyre » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:55 pm

Rainbow gatherings don't have perimeters.

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby lemur » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:38 am

yeah instead of a perimeter the CDC refers to the area around a rainbow gathering as a "quarantine zone"
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby mudpuppy000 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:22 am

ygmir wrote:
Canoe wrote:
Bob wrote:Rainbow Family doesn't need radar, they have shamanic kung fu psychics who detect bad vibes and vulnerable teenagers.

If they're going to scan the perimeter of BRC, I'd like to know how they'd filter the noise...



I"m told wearing strips of foil makes you look like noise as you approach.


Yeah that, and you have to launch flares to fool the Infra Red. :D

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Canoe » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:49 am

Carry an IR glow stick in case you need them to find you.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby ygmir » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:56 am

Canoe wrote:Carry an IR glow stick in case you need them to find you.


those Perimeter folks are pretty dang sharp, resourceful, witty, and attractive, they'll find ya.......and when they do.............
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby junglesmacks » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:57 am

This is where I don't tell the story of the ex-Marine that I met this year who had successfully snuck in from the 11 o'clock direction and fooled the IR.


The best part was where he was biking like hell and didn't know there was a trash fence until he was 3 feet from it at 25mph.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:27 am

Now, now, let's have no more conflation of Burningman and Rainbow Gathering.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:40 am

ygmir wrote:
Canoe wrote:Carry an IR glow stick in case you need them to find you.


those Perimeter folks are pretty dang sharp, resourceful, witty, and attractive, they'll find ya.......and when they do.............


Do you carry your own handcuffs?

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:42 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:
ygmir wrote:
Canoe wrote:Carry an IR glow stick in case you need them to find you.


those Perimeter folks are pretty dang sharp, resourceful, witty, and attractive, they'll find ya.......and when they do.............


Do you carry your own handcuffs?

Get a room, you three.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Canoe » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:59 pm

junglesmacks wrote:This is where I don't tell the story of the ex-Marine that I met this year who had successfully snuck in from the 11 o'clock direction and fooled the IR.
The best part was where he was biking like hell and didn't know there was a trash fence until he was 3 feet from it at 25mph.

So, they were tracking him and didn't go pick him up because they were still laughing their asses off...
Want to bet they were taking bets with each other about how far he'd roll when he hit the fence?

ygmir wrote:
Canoe wrote:Carry an IR glow stick in case you need them to find you.

those Perimeter folks are pretty dang sharp, resourceful, witty, and attractive, they'll find ya.......and when they do.............

With the use of IR goggles aimed on-playa, I carry IR glow sticks with me in case I come across someone injured in the dark. Gives me more than strobes & signal flashlight to attract attention.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:24 pm

Looked for, they cannot be heard. Listened for, they cannot be seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx0ggSL8CkU

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby ygmir » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:13 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:
ygmir wrote:
Canoe wrote:Carry an IR glow stick in case you need them to find you.


those Perimeter folks are pretty dang sharp, resourceful, witty, and attractive, they'll find ya.......and when they do.............


Do you carry your own handcuffs?

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Canoe » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:46 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:Looked for, they cannot be heard. Listened for, they cannot be seen.

We don't know the wavelength of that sensor, but the resolution and discretion sucks.
It would be interesting to see that material used against a quality system, but from 2008, it's already dated.

And on a bike at 25 mph back-dropped by open playa...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUHvpszbilc
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby junglesmacks » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:23 pm

Canoe wrote:
junglesmacks wrote:This is where I don't tell the story of the ex-Marine that I met this year who had successfully snuck in from the 11 o'clock direction and fooled the IR.
The best part was where he was biking like hell and didn't know there was a trash fence until he was 3 feet from it at 25mph.

So, they were tracking him and didn't go pick him up because they were still laughing their asses off...
Want to bet they were taking bets with each other about how far he'd roll when he hit the fence?


Lol.. no. I've typed it out a couple times outlining how he beat the IR, but I'll refrain and delete. He did it though.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby ygmir » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:47 pm

junglesmacks wrote:
Canoe wrote:
junglesmacks wrote:This is where I don't tell the story of the ex-Marine that I met this year who had successfully snuck in from the 11 o'clock direction and fooled the IR.
The best part was where he was biking like hell and didn't know there was a trash fence until he was 3 feet from it at 25mph.

So, they were tracking him and didn't go pick him up because they were still laughing their asses off...
Want to bet they were taking bets with each other about how far he'd roll when he hit the fence?


Lol.. no. I've typed it out a couple times outlining how he beat the IR, but I'll refrain and delete. He did it though.



details, and or pics, or, it didn't happen.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby gyre » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:15 pm

I'm sure curious.


I can tell you how to dazzle an ir camera in a public place without being obvious about it, if you want to tell me offboard.

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby mudpuppy000 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:30 pm

Psah, haven't you seen predator? :D

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby gyre » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:45 pm

Dateline?

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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby JesseGrrl2009 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:45 pm

The CO wrote:Turnip (& anyone with "friends" like this), cut the following deal with them:

1-"I will sneak you into Burning Man. It will cost you $500, cash up front. You are not camping with me, and I will not transport any of your gear. Just you. What I say goes. No refunds." The remainder of these instructions is to remain secret from them.

2-When you have the cash in hand, go buy (or find free on the street) a nasty ass couch. Hollow out the inside.

3-The "friend" has to ride in the hollowed out couch, preferably in the back of a box truck full of fuel in leaking containers, the entire trip, no matter how long a drive.

4- don't let them out for at least 4 hours before you get past Gerlach. Do not stop in Gerlach.

5-When you get to road turnoff, let them out for a breather & bathroom break.

6-Head for the gate as soon as they are in the pooper.

7-If they manage to catch up with you, they have no ticket, nothing in your car that proves they came with you, and are not part of the vehicle that Lord of Ruin and his cronies will have to mess with. They're just some crazy gate crasher/stalker thats been following you since the turnoff.

8-Now you have $500 dollars for Burning Man, and maybe they will learn a lesson.

9-Fuck that guy.


That ^^ is the best stowaway solution plan ever! I read/saw a BM thing talking about how vigilantly they search for stowaways because "At $240+ a pop, people get inventive", and this was from a few years ago. If anyone actually thinks sneaking into BM is going to be easy or accepted, then they are seriously deluded.
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Re: Sneaking into Burning Man

Postby Savannah » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:16 pm

I forgot how much I loved The CO's post. :lol:


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