Playa Conditions 2014

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by jasonk » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:31 pm

Am I correct in thinking that with the dry winter/year, between softness (no hard pack), and ruts from vehicles, that bicycles will be hard to get a lot of use out of?
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Rice » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:34 pm

jasonk wrote:Am I correct in thinking that between softness, and ruts from vehicles, that bicycles will be hard to get a lot of use out of?
Some parts of the playa will be hard packed - a biking paradise. Other parts will either have dunes of loose playa soil or ruts. Every year is different.
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Rice » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:35 pm

So, I just heard from my girlfriend about the current conditions at Gerlach. "HOT!"

when I hear more, I'll try to pass it on...
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by geospyder » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:44 pm

jasonk wrote:Am I correct in thinking that between softness, and ruts from vehicles, that bicycles will be hard to get a lot of use out of?
The softness can be quite a surprise if you hit one unexpectedly while going fast - bike stops - rider doesn't :shock: I know some people disagree on having a geared bike on the Playa but I find it helps to have a geared bike that you can switch gears to work your way thru the soft spots.
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by jasonk » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Rice wrote:
jasonk wrote:Am I correct in thinking that between softness, and ruts from vehicles, that bicycles will be hard to get a lot of use out of?
Some parts of the playa will be hard packed - a biking paradise. Other parts will either have dunes of loose playa soil or ruts. Every year is different.
But...isn't this entire thread about the fact that with a dry winter/year, there won't be any hard pack anywhere?

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by FossaFerox » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:01 pm

Not really. The winter cycles repair the damage from the previous year. We tore up the surface a little, but we didn't trash the place and the city moves slightly year to year, so there will be good and bad spots throughout.
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by LowePro » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:17 pm

(You'll still want to have a bike and will get plenty of use out of it, even in a loose playa.)

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Oldguy » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:16 am

Thank you, roughly 89/50 entire week. A+ effort. :coffee:
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by FossaFerox » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:08 am

3 week forecasts mean next to nothing in predictable areas. In the high desert where conditions vary so unexpectedly and rapidly a three hour forecast is barely reliable. Take that with a giant boulder of salt.
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by FIGJAM » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:32 am

I think that is from Alturas and that weather can be quite different, like 5 to 10 degrees hotter.

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by caffeineslinger » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:11 pm

No weather forecast is perfect. Especially a month out. It's probably mostly averages right now, but it's worth a check a day or two before leaving to give you an idea. Not sure why it would be Alturas weather. :|

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Desert_Rat » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:43 pm

As long as the winds don't pick up...looks promising.
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by FIGJAM » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:46 pm

When I was checking different weather services for Gerlach, it would say Gerlach but be from a weather station in Alturas. :?
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Train Wreck » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:10 pm

Update from a friend who just made it out there: "It's hot as balls!"

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Monkeystyle » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:30 pm

one of our camp members was on the playa 24 hours ago. he said its extremely soft on the 3:00 side but the 9:00 side is looking a little more firm.
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by Ranger Ryan » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:35 pm

I am on the playa at the moment. I can report that the playa does seem soft. There is a thin crust, but underneath it's quite soft and crumbles easily. There are some sandy pits around the city, but not any more than what I have seen in the past.

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Post by BoyScoutGirl » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:30 am

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by kittyrodriguez » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:44 pm

Damn. 3:00 is squishy again?! While its "funny" to watch everyone hitting the soft spots from your front porch, it is NOT funny when its you. Why is it always soft on the 3:00 side?

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by lucky420 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:01 pm

I think it has to do with how the city is situated and the amount of rain/snow that hits each side. 10 o'clock is closer to a mountain range. I think it just gets more moisture although I believe Trilo disagrees with my assessment :)
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by 1durphul » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:18 pm

Is it raining on the playa? Weather report says it might.

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Post by FIGJAM » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:22 pm

My map says "yes".
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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by lucky420 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:23 pm

Rained all day here in Reno. That doesn't answer your question. Rain in Nevada can be really spot specific. I've been in a downpour in Fallon (60 miles east of Reno) and 3 blocks over the sun is shining and no rain.

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Post by FIGJAM » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:24 pm

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by lucky420 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:25 pm

And the playa is a huge area.

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by 1durphul » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:42 pm

I love me some pre-burn rain tamping down the playa.

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by trilobyte » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:03 pm

Thanks for the update, Ranger Ryan, I've been hearing the same from other sources. Hopefully the thin crust will keep things relatively dust free for the crews out there (today was fence day, folks!), things will only start to get messy as more people and vehicles get out there in the next couple weeks.

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by TT120 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:42 pm

I don't think some rain would really do much at this point. It would have to be standing water out there for any real repair to happen on a large scale. I reckon it will be about the same as it was last year. It was good at the beginning and deteriorated as the week went on.
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Post by trilobyte » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:45 pm

I agree, TT120. A few scattered storms won't generally make a dent - hell, last year even several big heavy storms that flooded the place in the weeks prior to the gates opening didn't have much of an impact. At this point, I'm hoping it stays dry as a bone through to mid-October.

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Re: Playa Conditions 2014

Post by geospyder » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:56 pm

Last year I had an OMG moment when the skies opened up for a huge downpour as we were going through Empire. The filter I had rigged for my cabin air intake was soaked and the painters (blue) tape holding it on almost failed (ends were curling up). The vehicle in front of me had to pull over since he lost his windshield wipers and couldn't see. I thought for sure the gate would be shut down because of mud. By the time we got to the Playa all was dry. Empire is approximately 13 miles from BRC so the weather can be completely different.
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