Playa Conditions for 2015

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Captain Goddammit » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:20 am

Dirty little secret: the blue stripes down the sides of my camper are just painter's tape!
I was going to paint them, looked at it with the tape, and said "fuck it, that looks great".
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by ^Rhino! » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:21 am

Canoe wrote:
^Rhino! wrote:... I am sorry for pulling your chains, gentlemen. I've had bad luck with both masking tape and duct tape on playa. ...
You and many others. Both are a crap shoot as to if the adhesive will give out in the heat. Can be a real mess to clean up.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Ratty » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:41 am

Rhino, I used stucco tape last year to hold the reflective bubble wrap to all the windows of my van. It worked like a charm. Nothing failed and nothing flew.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by ^Rhino! » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:22 am

Ratty wrote:Rhino, I used stucco tape last year to hold the reflective bubble wrap to all the windows of my van. It worked like a charm. Nothing failed and nothing flew.
Thanks, Ratty. I'll check it out at my local Home Depot.

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by chuckularone » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:23 am

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by ^Rhino! » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:03 pm

You are NOT going to believe this:

Collect the green stink bugs for this:

Despite their name, stink bugs are actually one of the most delectable of insects. Here they add a unique favor to a traditional paté.
1/3 pound roasted stink bugs
10 chicken livers
4 cloves garlic
1 small onion
1/8 teaspoon salt
Black pepper, to taste
Oregano, to taste
Marjoram, to taste
Powdered bouillon, to taste
Olive oil, to taste
Place the chicken livers in a saucepan with the garlic, onion, salt, and enough water to cover. Bring to a boil and simmer for 10 minutes.
Remove the chicken livers and place in a blender or food processor, reserving the broth. Add the roasted stink bugs and about 1/4 cup of the reserved broth and pureé, adding more broth as needed, until mixture is smooth and reaches a spreadable consistency. Add spices and oil to taste. Place in a wooden bowl and serve with crusty french bread.

From:
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I wonder, how much of the spices it'll take to get me to taste.???
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by The Hustler » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:44 pm

Jovankat wrote:
gaminwench wrote:Full report upon return???
Melonblue wrote:and pictures; if possible, please :)
There was a rain/thunder/lightning storm coming in from the east/south east when we arrived at about sundown on Friday. We raced the storm from the 8 mile playa entrance to our camp (about 12 o'clock & trash fence) and when we arrived there was some lightning very close by that had us sitting in our cars for a while. When that passed we set up our camp in the dark and the rain which had passed by the time we went to bed.

The next morning when we drove to Frog Pond we drove over a lot of very bumpy playa, there were big mounds and large ditches. We found one ditch at about 70mph and I have a very impressive bruise on my butt to prove it. The car is also not in the best state...

On Saturday afternoon a dust storm rolled in from the direction of Razorback. It was well and truly goggles and mask weather but we sat out in it on top of a collapsed tent stopping it from blowing away. There were some tiny pebbles in the wind that stung a bit but nothing that made us desperately want to seek shelter. The dust passed in less that an hour (I think?) but the wind kept coming for a few more.

We heard it was supposed to rain heavily and thunder from 4am to 9am Sunday morning but it was only drizzle when we went to bed and when we woke up at 7am the skies were clear. It didn't seem like there had been much if any rain over night. We packed up and were off playa before midday but some or our group stayed on to finish their survey work for their art project. By 7:30pm Sunday evening the weather had turned. Instead of being done with their measurements by 9pm they weren't ready to leave until 11pm. At 1:22am we received this message "Sadly, all playa exits appear to be impassible. We have tried four or five of them now, and it's all mud." That was quickly followed by this though; "Actually, we found some crazy backroad and we are now off-playa."

Except for the couple of bouts of rain/wind/thunder the weather was actually really lovely. It wasn't oppressively hot during the day or particularly cool at night. I slept with just a sheet on Saturday night.

The playa surface near where we camped had a decent crust on it and was quite solid and flat. Apart from what had been driven over while slightly moist that is. As we were leaving we drove over to roughly where we camped last year at 3-ish and A/B-ish. We used the Time to Burn app to find our way and once we hit the city we were able to make out the paths of last year's roads. That area was in noticeably worse shape. The ground was a lot less flat and crust was a lot more crumbly. There weren't any piles of soft powder like there were when we arrived last year but it seemed like that was only due to the rain in the previous few days and the mounds of powder were sitting just a few millimetres under the crust waiting to resurface with the slightest disturbance.

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If you're just interested in Playa porn check out this Imgur album of pictures I took of just the playa.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by The Hustler » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:59 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:What's your problem Rhino? Don't you know about the subterranean lava tunnels beneath the playa?
What do you think is the real reason they don't allow digging?
Land speed record racers? Shit.

That's what doomed the BRC Subway ... something about tubes of hot lava spurting hot, sticky death all over everything.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Jovankat » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:15 pm

Super Evil Brian wrote: Black Rock City isn't always in the same place on the playa. It's close enough though.
Yeah that's what these two posts made about a week after the one you've quoted were about...
Jovankat wrote:The coordinates for the city have been posted. From what I can tell moving the city ~1200 feet down the 6:00 road from last year is going to be a negative for playa surface conditions, especially the inner playa. :cry:
Jovankat wrote:The city is moving away from open playa along the 6:00 line, so kinda south-westish. So more like Esplanade where G was (not sure if that's the right street but it's the right direction)

Maladroit I was on the playa last weekend for Juplaya. I posted some pictures a page or so ago in this thread. Last year's city is still very clearly noticeable. You can see where the streets are worn down flat and you can see where camps were and it's very far from being flat, there are fluffy sand dunes covered in a very fragile crust. This was on the 3:00 side so it might not be as bad on the other side but there was also some areas that didn't appear to be messed up because of the city rather just generally less than ideal on both sides of where the trash fence would have been.

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by The Hustler » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:14 pm

Right. Yes, of course ... ahem.

So um, anyone hear about this camping trip in Nevada?
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by spacetime » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:27 am

Topping this to bring back to our regularly scheduled, non-bugged playa conditions discussion.

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by mudpuppy000 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:36 pm

Looks like a chance of a storm saturday before gate opens.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weathe ... n=USNV0033

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by BeeWeeDee » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:08 pm

^Rhino! wrote:You are NOT going to believe this:

Collect the green stink bugs for this:

Despite their name, stink bugs are actually one of the most delectable of insects. Here they add a unique favor to a traditional paté.
1/3 pound roasted stink bugs
10 chicken livers
4 cloves garlic
1 small onion
1/8 teaspoon salt
Black pepper, to taste
Oregano, to taste
Marjoram, to taste
Powdered bouillon, to taste
Olive oil, to taste
Place the chicken livers in a saucepan with the garlic, onion, salt, and enough water to cover. Bring to a boil and simmer for 10 minutes.
Remove the chicken livers and place in a blender or food processor, reserving the broth. Add the roasted stink bugs and about 1/4 cup of the reserved broth and pureé, adding more broth as needed, until mixture is smooth and reaches a spreadable consistency. Add spices and oil to taste. Place in a wooden bowl and serve with crusty french bread.

From:
Creepy Crawly Cuisine

I wonder, how much of the spices it'll take to get me to taste.???

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Ano » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:33 pm

Live from the playa -

Hard thin crust 9 side
Fluffy as fuck on 3 side
6 is a mix
open is pretty duney here and there with large swaths of beautiful flatness, but again, thin crust
deep playa is currently a fucking mess, but randomly has beautiful spots of flatness
gate road is currently in good condition but that'll change soon
very windy, not a lot of dust because of crust but once its broken we'll be fucked
bugs here and there, not a bugpocalypse though

overall it looks nicer than it is, just below the surface is dusty hell. no freeze over the winter form what I've heard but lots of rain, so we have a crust on top of nasty. hammering into the ground around 7:00-8:00 agrees with this.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by lucky420 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:46 pm

sounds like last year, thanks for sharing ^^
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Token » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:54 pm

Valid: August 30 2015 to September 03 2015

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Translation: COLD

Valid: September 01 2015 to September 07 2015

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Translation: COLD AS FUCK

10 Day GFS Model:

http://www.weatherstreet.com/states/gfs ... recast.htm

Looks real windy in the daytime later part of the 10-day period.

Pack warm clothes and layers.

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Canoe » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:08 pm

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by pink » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:00 pm

Dusty as fuck too. 2 whiteouts on gate road this afternoon on the way in as in can't see ANYTHING. crept up to the back of a car in front of me and saw we were at Greeters. Found my camp because I was stopped right next to our trailer on the road, but couldn't see camp at all.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Ano » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:42 pm

more updates:

when the wind gets going its turbo dusty at 9 o clock side. it looks like 9 will be the dustier side for once.
it gets COLD at night. everyone is going to enjoy watching freezing raver ponies walking home from the deep playa because they didn't plan well. seriously, it hasnt gotten this cold in years at night, if things hold up prepare to freeze
crust is busting in certain parts, but seriously its amazingly flat until it busts.

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Token » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:27 am

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Captain Goddammit » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:51 pm

This live-on-playa report from Trilobyte:

"Today is fucking hot, zero meaningful wind. Figures, we're done with all the big tarp work
They tell us the on site weather station is calling for serious wind tomorrow
Saturday is also expected to be high wind."
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Jackass » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:33 am

NVZ004-282230-
/O.NEW.KREV.DU.Y.0003.150829T1500Z-150830T0100Z/
WESTERN NEVADA BASIN AND RANGE INCLUDING PYRAMID LAKE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FERNLEY...FALLON...LOVELOCK...
SILVER SPRINGS...NIXON...IMLAY
400 AM PDT FRI AUG 28 2015

...BLOWING DUST ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM TO 6 PM PDT
SATURDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A BLOWING DUST
ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM TO 6 PM PDT SATURDAY.

* TIMING: LATE SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

* WINDS: 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH.

* VISIBILITY: GENERALLY 1 TO 4 MILES WITH BRIEF PERIODS BELOW 1
MILE POSSIBLE.

* IMPACTS: POOR VISIBILITY WILL CREATE DIFFICULT DRIVING
CONDITIONS ESPECIALLY DOWNWIND OF DRY SINKS AND LAKE BEDS.
WINDS MAY BLOW AWAY UNSECURED OUTDOOR ITEMS LIKE PATIO FURNITURE
OR CAMPING GEAR.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Jackass » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:41 am

Prediction: This year's weather will bring the fair-weather burner to their knees. They will tell their friends,"It sucks, don't go." Next year will see less demand based on the word getting out to all of the candy-asses....inhospitable. Nothing but dirt laden youtube videos and instagram photos, can barely see yourself in the "selfies".
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by FIGJAM » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:12 pm

BMIR reports the warning is for 2AM till afternoon tomorrow with sustained winds at 30mph, gusting to 60mph!!!!! :twisted:
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Post by Krokodyle » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:53 pm

Jackass wrote:Prediction: This year's weather will bring the fair-weather burner to their knees.
It seems like it will literally be "fair-weather"...

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Jackass » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:08 pm

Once the dirt clears, we shall see...Probably going to be colder than a witches' tits after dark...Forecasts can be deceiving.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Token » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:18 pm

Just a heads up to those that have not experienced cold Playa.

If daytime high temperatures are really in the 80s, it will feel very cold out there if you are not in the sun. The humidity will still be in single digits during the day, and the forecast daytime winds will suck the heat out of you via evaporation.

Any wind forecasts you see, add 10Mph for Playa effect. So that 5 - 10 breeze in Lovelock will be 15 - 20 on Playa.

Night time 50s and 40s will be like the dead of winter cold. Looks like winds are forecast to be calm at night, so lucked out there, maybe.

Now for all agencies forecasting: There is no permanent weather station in Gerlach. Closest station is on a peak South-East of town at high altitude. All forecasts for that area are extrapolated via data from Alturas and Lovelock. You do need to add the Playa Correction Factor to get sensible value from Wunderground, Accuweather, NOAA, etc.

PCF: Wind +10; Temp - High: +5; Temp - Low(hot) +5; Temp - Low(cold) -5

The PCF is my own observation and opinion from empirical data collected over the years.

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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by Canoe » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:59 pm

Those adjustments look pretty good to me.
I miss the published Gerlach weather observations/readings. :(

A 60 mph wind can be pretty serious on its own, but when you're within BRC, a 60 mph wind can give you:
  • a 60 mph wind,
  • lower than 60 mph wind speeds, due to nearby structures sheltering you,
  • up to double the wind pressure of that 60 mph wind, on you and your shelter, due to wind channelling by nearby structures or stopped vehicles.
    - You can be walking along balanced against the wind, and a gust, or shift/veer, can unbalance you and down you go.
    - Or a veer can result in channelled wind hitting you and you're blown off your feet with nothing you can do. Which is why the advice is: Shelter In Place.
    - A shift/channel may hit your shelter. In under a second, your shelter went from an 1100 lbs. wind load to a 2200 lbs. wind load, an 8' wall hexayurt design from 2250 lbs. to 4500 lbs.). Those loads are for a 75 mph base wind.
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Re: Playa Conditions for 2015

Post by danibel » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:51 pm

oooooh. I am getting excited! Bringing a poker deck to deal pai gow in my van if we get white out conditions this year. Dominos too.
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