RV & Camper Esplanade Spaces Available with Red Lightning!

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Post by Water Dog » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:22 pm

Red Lightning just opened a few spots in its community for both campers and RVs! If you know anyone who wants to come and stay with us at Burning Man, Please let them know!!

We provide 2 meals/day, some drinking water, showers, a luscious community of deeply spiritual and juicy burners, and land on which to live. We are located at 8:45 and Esplanade!!! There is no better real estate on the playa! Tucked in next to the beauties at Pink heart, you will find Red Lightning an incredible, joyous and transformative place to call home!

Our vision is posted separately. Here a recent version of our flyer: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByKuZGY ... sp=sharing. Contact us for information about camp dues.

As we are a service camp, we do require our campers to play a part in keeping things running smoothly. At this point our programming and Communication Rangers teams are open. We also require that you stay and help us strike! If you can't work, but want to join us, let's talk.

Programming: helps is keep workshops moving along smoothly Communication Rangers: Check in campers upon arrival, distribute water at meal times and be at the center of camp information station!

Here is our link to registration....http://www.eventbee.com/event?eid=161307665

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Post by cammi hudson » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:51 pm

Your google doc is restricted. Says I need to ask permission to see it. If you want people to see it, guess they need to ask or let everyone see it.

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Post by MegsLegs » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:39 pm

Wow, your "no work" fees are pretty steep- I guess the people paying what's posted here (should you be posting fees here? I'm not sure of the etiquette) get the honor of serving the ones who pony up more?

I'd love to see a description of your programming, tell me more about these transformative workshops.

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Post by Savannah » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:00 pm

MegsLegs wrote:Wow, your "no work" fees are pretty steep- I guess the people paying what's posted here (should you be posting fees here? I'm not sure of the etiquette) get the honor of serving the ones who pony up more?

I'd love to see a description of your programming, tell me more about these transformative workshops.
You're correct, MegsLegs; camp dues and fees are better listed on a camp's website or via email or PM. I have edited the post and will let the OP know.
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Post by caffeineslinger » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:42 pm

I'm surprised this thread isn't going crazy.

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Post by strange love » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:45 pm

*insert popcorn gif.

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Post by trilobyte » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:46 am

It's a shame that the focus of your sales pitch isn't what your camp is doing for the community.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:28 am

i think they do programming, and give out hugs, and brainwash southern californians with a combination of psuedo-spirituality and coco bliss ice cream..


there might be pink hi-tops involved too, I'm not sure... :twisted:
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Post by some seeing eye » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:16 am

I've been part of a 600 person village with no dues, a >300 person camp with no dues and shared meals and a 250 person camp with dues of $150 which included meals, each participant bringing some coordinated ingredients, a major soundcamp and domes to camp in without a tent. That one was the only one of 8 to which I've paid dues to participate.

If you multiply the number of campers in the above mentioned camp, about 200, by their dues you get a large budget. I would be very curious if there is a smaller budget with some campers paying 0 and others full price. Or if they don't fill their last minute open spots, they will eat 4-low 5 figures of reserves (reserves??!?). Or if they have a backer that handles 4-5 figure budget swings. Or if the last 10-20 campers are 4-low 5 figures of pure profit.

That there are camps with dues that high looking for campers this late or campers wanting a camp with those dues this late goes back to a recent impassioned comment on the PnP thread - http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 90#p960351

And have to agree with Simon if you read their website.
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Post by Elderberry » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:18 am

trilobyte wrote:It's a shame that the focus of your sales pitch isn't what your camp is doing for the community.
They must be doing something BMORG approves of to get placed on the Esplanade, no?
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Post by trilobyte » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:39 am

I have no idea what they had on their questionnaire. But the majority of theme camps who post recruitment threads spend a significant chunk of time and energy in that post talking about what the camp does and what excites them about being a camp - running a bar, building art, bringing a stage, serving root beer floats, etc.

That info might be contained in the inaccessible doc that water dog linked to, but unfortunately no effort went into including any of it in the post. Hopefully he/she checks back in on the thread and provides some of that detail.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:59 am

trilobyte wrote:Hopefully he/she checks back in on the thread and provides some of that detail.
Or a great deal of butt-hurt. Always a possibility. Always.
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Post by Lonesomebri » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:06 pm

Hopefully he/she checks back in on the thread and provides some of that detail.
Seriously, what part of-

“Our goal has been to raise the consciousness of Black Rock City, while offering inspiration for humanity to tranform our connections with Earth, Spirit and one another.” http://www.eventbee.com/event?eid=161307665

don't you get?

I'm heading out to Haight and Ashbury right now to try and get a hippie translation on that one.

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Post by CornMan » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:53 pm

I'll make a point to visit this camp to see what it is all about.
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Post by Elderberry » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:35 pm

I'll help them out a little http://www.redlightning.org/
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Post by graidawg » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:24 pm

is the rv parking fee on top of camp dues? because charging people to park is a bit outrageous.....

kind of curious what this camp offers to charge that kind of money.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:20 pm

Well, if White Lightning is moonshine, then Red LIghtning must be mars-shine. It will make you into a warrior!
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Post by Savannah » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:00 pm

Good link, JKisha.

I dug deeper and there is a description here.

http://www.redlightning.org/2013-vision/

http://www.redlightning.org/about-us/
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Post by graidawg » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:33 pm

Savannah wrote:Good link, JKisha.

I dug deeper and there is a description here.

http://www.redlightning.org/2013-vision/

http://www.redlightning.org/about-us/

still wondering what costs $20,000 in their camp.
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Post by Savannah » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:47 pm

graidawg wrote:
Savannah wrote:Good link, JKisha.

I dug deeper and there is a description here.

http://www.redlightning.org/2013-vision/

http://www.redlightning.org/about-us/

still wondering what costs $20,000 in their camp.
Maybe you should write to them and ask. :P
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Post by Elderberry » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:13 pm

graidawg wrote:
Savannah wrote:Good link, JKisha.

I dug deeper and there is a description here.

http://www.redlightning.org/2013-vision/

http://www.redlightning.org/about-us/

still wondering what costs $20,000 in their camp.
That's not a lot of money for a large camp.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:57 pm

Turtleburp wrote:divers among you may apply other definitions of stroke
It's all about holding up convenience stores, my friend...
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Post by Turtleburp » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:32 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
Turtleburp wrote:divers among you may apply other definitions of stroke
It's all about holding up convenience stores, my friend...

One may hold up a convenience store but if wearing a compliant system configured in a consistent acrossthe team* and breathing the correct gasses one may not be a stroke**


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Post by Roberto Dobbisano » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:51 pm

Just to be clear, the Pink People are not affiliated with The Red People, just camped next to it...


Tedd St. Rainbow i believe is with the red people...


anyway, just to clarify the hues, however, most southern californians look the same to me.
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Post by beaneumann » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:54 pm

Damn, those must be the highest fees I've ever seen for a camp!
I didn't know that RL is doing the Talk to God booth, though. But damn, $1600 for someone with an RV... and I thought Disorient was expensive ;)

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Post by graidawg » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:41 pm

jkisha wrote:
graidawg wrote: still wondering what costs $20,000 in their camp.
That's not a lot of money for a large camp.
sorry i missed a 1 off the beginning its about $120,000 assumimg everyone works and doesn't come in an rv.
Savannah wrote: Maybe you should write to them and ask. :P

I don't actually care enough to do that, if they can get 200ish people to pay those fees and get placed year on year they must be doing something right.

I learned long ago not to care what other people do with their money, nobody tells me what to do with mine. And to be honest if i put the kind of effort required into creating a huge camp with works of art, interactive toys, an mv etc, etc, etc I would want to be sure it didn't cost me a dime
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Post by Pippi » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:02 am

I had no idea camps charged that much! Thats crazy!

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Post by Savannah » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:31 am

beaneumann wrote:Damn, those must be the highest fees I've ever seen for a camp!
I didn't know that RL is doing the Talk to God booth, though. But damn, $1600 for someone with an RV... and I thought Disorient was expensive ;)
That's a substantial typo, more than twice what they quoted. :) (I remember what the dues were, having edited the prices out of the initial post). If you want additional information, please google them or visit the links.

Red Lightning is now full. General philosophical discussion of camp dues (or whathaveyou) can be continued in the "Politics & Philosophy" forum . Thanks!
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