jhimbo wrote:Thanks, ygmir, I always appreciate a mindful response.
I get the radical self-reliance; and of course if I were to find a ticket, that is just the beginning of the journey, there is a lot more to survival in that environment than just showing up, and I do understand that it is going to cost a lot more and require significant participation...
That point is well taken, tho I do not believe "radical self-reliance" trumps or negates "radical inclusion" nor "gifting" nor "decommodification."
In any event, seems the 10 Principles should be more than a self-congratulatory pat on the back, to be ignored when the questions get tough.
Anyone into mindfully discussing the aforementioned topics, I am all ears.
ygmir, this event IS Burning Man, the very essence of the concept, and everything else the community does outside of the event is peripheral. Valid yes, peripheral for sure. One should experience the event, to really be part of the community, no? Otherwise, it is like saying you can't be a Senator cause you don't have enough money, but you CAN be part of the "Senator's Community" if you watch from afar. Seems a tad silly. We don't want to pretend to be part of the BM community, or live vicariously through forums and chats; we actually seek inclusion to the main BM event. Not too radical a concept imho.
We want to go to BM, the event, not meet up later and celebrate the event which we were restricted from.
Maybe BM should be free for everyone, and a radical new method of funding the event discussed. Now THAT would be radical inclusion.
Maybe there should be some transparency with low-income tix, as that system clearly failed me (and I am sure many others).
Maybe, just maybe, we can actually have a dialogue about it all, without me being called a troll. I am sorry if my quest for understanding is interpreted by you as flaming; sorry for the karma you are dealing with, not for my questions.
Please don't bother calling me names or babbling about "sour grapes." I am seeking mindful conversation and understanding (trolling is something else entirely, look it up if you don't understand); and as I said in my first post ever, that this is also sour grapes, sure. We all get that. No need to keep saying it, or you might risk appearing to be a redundant individual, and I am sure that is not the case.
and see, Jhimbo, I feel you have it backwards:
"the event" is a culmination, if not celebration, of "living the dream" or "burning" all year round, for many of us.
Yup, it's super, and grand and "off the scale", but, it's not the end all, be all. It sort of shows us what's possible.
But, many live it, live the principles, to the best of our ability, every day. We go, to see friends, and be inspired. But, if the event vanished, many of us would still "do it" and find ways to be with eachother. It can truly be a family. Dysfunctional, maddening, and lovable family.
Some folks can't go every year. Some here on eplaya, have only been a time or two, some never. And yet, year after year, contribute here and in the whole world.
It'd be nice if we all got free icecream. But, we don't.
Life is not fair, never intended as fair.
Even our founding document ("our" being U.S.A.), wise at it is, allows us "the pursuit.......", but no guarantee of success.
There are a myraid of ways, to raise the money, to get to BRC. Many, many here are very poor, yet find ways to put it together.
And yeah, when you prove yourself, and become a know quantity, some folks get help from others, even complete strangers.
I hope you make it, and, I hope you make it "on your own", for the taste will be truly sweet.
good luck
