trilobyte wrote:though I have no idea what's up with that whole block of yellow with the red streak.
yeah. we'd like to know what's up with that as well :/
trilobyte wrote:though I have no idea what's up with that whole block of yellow with the red streak.

I'm trying to figure out a gentle way to let you know that leaving 4 tire scars at your camp is in no way appropriate. Leaving no trace means that the area is just the same as when you got there, that includes any sort of damage to the playa.Drawingablank wrote:After a long wait, I see our camp was fully yellow much as I am embarrassed to admit it. I really just don't understand how and it bothers me a lot.
It was a very small camp, less than 30 x 30 feet. We literally didn't cook outside the rv, dumped no grey water, burned nothing, grilled nothing, ate atop a tarp, and packed out every bit of garbage we created (or that blew into / through our camp). Plus we swept the camp twice for moop in 2 directions during daylight hours before departure.
Granted I didn't know about tire scars, so we may have left 4 of those. Is that enough to rate a yellow?
Someone could have dumped something after you left--like a bike, or a barrel of water, or a bag of trash unsecurely fastened by a passing vehicle. The wind could have blown something untoward onto your former property, or you may have pinpointed your exact spot on the map incorrectly or (more likely) underestimated the influence of your neighbors on 3 sides. 30 x 30 is very small.Drawingablank wrote:After a long wait, I see our camp was fully yellow much as I am embarrassed to admit it. I really just don't understand how and it bothers me a lot.
It was a very small camp, less than 30 x 30 feet. We literally didn't cook outside the rv, dumped no grey water, burned nothing, grilled nothing, ate atop a tarp, and packed out every bit of garbage we created (or that blew into / through our camp). Plus we swept the camp twice for moop in 2 directions during daylight hours before departure.
Granted I didn't know about tire scars, so we may have left 4 of those. Is that enough to rate a yellow?
LOL, you don't have to be gentle - if I was sensitive about making a mistake I certainly wouldn't have admitted it publicly. Had I known to look for them I would have paid more attention when we pulled out at 4AM. Now I know for next year and won't make that mistake twice.Parasitoid wrote:I'm trying to figure out a gentle way to let you know that leaving 4 tire scars at your camp is in no way appropriate. Leaving no trace means that the area is just the same as when you got there, that includes any sort of damage to the playa.Drawingablank wrote:After a long wait, I see our camp was fully yellow much as I am embarrassed to admit it. I really just don't understand how and it bothers me a lot.
It was a very small camp, less than 30 x 30 feet. We literally didn't cook outside the rv, dumped no grey water, burned nothing, grilled nothing, ate atop a tarp, and packed out every bit of garbage we created (or that blew into / through our camp). Plus we swept the camp twice for moop in 2 directions during daylight hours before departure.
Granted I didn't know about tire scars, so we may have left 4 of those. Is that enough to rate a yellow?
There I did it!
Edited to say: MAybe someone sabatoged you after you left
Well, I can only hope and there is no way I'll ever know for sure, but I prefer to think I didn't contribute to the moop problem on our block.Savannah wrote: Someone could have dumped something after you left--like a bike, or a barrel of water, or a bag of trash unsecurely fastened by a passing vehicle. The wind could have blown something untoward onto your former property, or you may have pinpointed your exact spot on the map incorrectly or (more likely) underestimated the influence of your neighbors on 3 sides. 30 x 30 is very small.
You seem to know that your area was very clean and so I believe you and think you did well. When you do your best that is the best you can do right? I can understand it would be a little frustrating or confusing to see yellow were you expected and put in the time to make it green.Drawingablank wrote:Well, I can only hope and there is no way I'll ever know for sure, but I prefer to think I didn't contribute to the moop problem on our block.Savannah wrote: Someone could have dumped something after you left--like a bike, or a barrel of water, or a bag of trash unsecurely fastened by a passing vehicle. The wind could have blown something untoward onto your former property, or you may have pinpointed your exact spot on the map incorrectly or (more likely) underestimated the influence of your neighbors on 3 sides. 30 x 30 is very small.

Drawingablank wrote:LOL, you don't have to be gentle - if I was sensitive about making a mistake I certainly wouldn't have admitted it publicly. Had I known to look for them I would have paid more attention when we pulled out at 4AM. Now I know for next year and won't make that mistake twice.Parasitoid wrote:I'm trying to figure out a gentle way to let you know that leaving 4 tire scars at your camp is in no way appropriate. Leaving no trace means that the area is just the same as when you got there, that includes any sort of damage to the playa.Drawingablank wrote:After a long wait, I see our camp was fully yellow much as I am embarrassed to admit it. I really just don't understand how and it bothers me a lot.
It was a very small camp, less than 30 x 30 feet. We literally didn't cook outside the rv, dumped no grey water, burned nothing, grilled nothing, ate atop a tarp, and packed out every bit of garbage we created (or that blew into / through our camp). Plus we swept the camp twice for moop in 2 directions during daylight hours before departure.
Granted I didn't know about tire scars, so we may have left 4 of those. Is that enough to rate a yellow?
There I did it!
Edited to say: MAybe someone sabatoged you after you left
Our entire end of the block was yellow (red on the other end) so I suspect it goes well beyond just our tire scars - not that I'm making excuses but all of our neighbors were pretty careful about moop too so I'm not really sure what happened on our block.
No it was not registered and placed, so that might explain it.jkisha wrote:Was your little 30x30 camp actually registered and placed? My thinking is that even if your exact little area were totally spotless it wouldn't have been scored green if everyone around you were yellow. I don't think their scoring is that granular. Though I could be totally wrong on this assumption.
Well actually we broke camp, packed the rv, and mooped the area in daylight well before the temple burn. After the temple burn we hung out at the neighbors until departure. It just never occurred to me to check for tire scars, but aside from that the area was spotless when we left. I even did a quick sweep with the flashlight just to be sure before we headed out.trilobyte wrote:I think leaving at 4AM was also a bad move. It's the dead of night, much more difficult to do a good job MOOPing in the dark.
Ah well, not going to lose sleep over it. Besides, it gives me a goal to aim for next year.MyDearFriend wrote:DAB, perhaps it was the wind. I was catching bits and pieces all day Monday and Tuesday. It helps to smooth down the bumps, so fewer things will settle, but maybe you just had bad luck.
It really sounds like your immediate neighbors were the messy ones, and large enough to make your little clean 30 x 30 corner of the world less significant. The map represents a really large area.Drawingablank wrote:No it was not registered and placed, so that might explain it.jkisha wrote:Was your little 30x30 camp actually registered and placed? My thinking is that even if your exact little area were totally spotless it wouldn't have been scored green if everyone around you were yellow. I don't think their scoring is that granular. Though I could be totally wrong on this assumption.
Well actually we broke camp, packed the rv, and mooped the area in daylight well before the temple burn. After the temple burn we hung out at the neighbors until departure. It just never occurred to me to check for tire scars, but aside from that the area was spotless when we left. I even did a quick sweep with the flashlight just to be sure before we headed out.trilobyte wrote:I think leaving at 4AM was also a bad move. It's the dead of night, much more difficult to do a good job MOOPing in the dark.
Drawingablank wrote:Ah well, not going to lose sleep over it. Besides, it gives me a goal to aim for next year.MyDearFriend wrote:DAB, perhaps it was the wind. I was catching bits and pieces all day Monday and Tuesday. It helps to smooth down the bumps, so fewer things will settle, but maybe you just had bad luck.
I don't think we left any bumps - our biggest impact was hammering in and removing 12 rebar, which all came out very smooth and we tamped down the holes. We even duct taped the top of the rebar so it wouldn't scrape shavings out of the monkey hut's pvc when we broke it down (learned that from a test run in the back yard).
Next year we are probaly going to head out Tuesday morning though.
Plus its interesting to watch the city fade away. Sad, but interesting.trilobyte wrote:Good plan (not losing sleep over it and taking it as a goal for next year). Plus, leaving on Tuesday will make you incredibly happy. Completely removes the frustration of Exodus lines and traffic, and no pressure to hurry-hurry-hurry and beat the rush.