MOOP Map Live 2013

[666isMONEY]

Dang that looks like a nice tent. I'd take it.

I checked the tan one out to make sure no one died in it. It looked abandoned and smelled like canvas. A tent within a tent.

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[theCryptofishist]

We brought home a crappy folding lawn chair.

I once saw instructions to make those into wind chimes.

[fresh]

And you should be proud, Fresh! Bringing out the rink all these year in and of itself is a major achievement, and stepping things up over the last couple years shows one hell of a commitment to doing the right thing (while continuing to be an awesome theme camp).

666, the MOOP map is less about posting pics of other peoples' stuff and public shaming, and more about being a positive feedback and encouragement tool. If you have comments or requests for the blog post, by all means post them on the blog (where The Hun might actually see it).

thanks trilo! This was my second year in a row after a 5 year hiatus, so I was not there in 2011, the first year of the now burned OSB subfloor. That year there were no tarps under the floor and it was a nightmare. One attempt of trying to remove the moopof the thousands of wood chips was to burn em with a torch. That was given the X by the powers to be. It was a losi g battle trying to pick up a majority of the chips, and the 10-20% left over gave us red. Just saying that being in the red is not always a belligerent and purposeful action. 2012 we improved, but still had issues and the floor area was again red, with the rest of the camp green. That said, Track record and effort is the most important thing to resto and placement. We kicked ass this year, most the plans worked, and our efforts were appreciated.

Being recoginized and personally getting a photo credit wiped away any post playa blues I had!

Hopefully the new plans for next year makes it even easier and we don't have to haul out bags of moopy playa!

[tattoogoddess]

Not going to lie, would have took the tent.

[littlebird]

Oh, I would have TOTALLY taken that tent. No need to feel shame about that, in my opinion. That was left up for grabs; either that or MOOP.

[AntiM]

What if the tent owners were working Exodus?

[Elliot]

Good point, AntiM. I worked until Noon Tuesday this year. If I wind up working later, I may very well hang a sign on the door explaining this. Not that Millicent The Bus is likely to seem abandoned, but on the principle. At some point they must necessarily start investigating the remaining camp sites.

When Millicent's starter went out in 2007, and I hitch-hiked to Reno on Tuesday and returned with the new starter on Wednesday, the folks at Gate who let me back in knew about Millicent, so she had already been taken note of.

[Elorrum]

We brought home a crappy folding lawn chair.

I once saw instructions to make those into wind chimes.

*snort* thanks for that.

[Drawingablank]

The thing that boggled my mind this year was the huge amount of abandoned bikes. I know we hauled out at least 8 or 9 on Tuesday that had been dumped in our village, and probably some others were removed by villagers who left before us.

[trilobyte]

Do not haul any bike off the playa unless it belongs to you or a campmate/friend. The right thing to do with abandoned bikes is to leave them where they lay.

[maladroit]

Do not haul any bike off the playa unless it belongs to you or a campmate/friend. The right thing to do with abandoned bikes is to leave them where they lay.

OK, so bikes, specifically, don't affect the MOOP map? A large theme camp that is completely clean except for 12-15 bikes scattered around would still receive a green mark without any of those red hotspots and it wouldn't be mentioned by placement the next year?

I find most people are concerned about leaving bikes in their former camp location, so they either feel they have to take them off playa or they drag them over to the nearest porta potties.

[tamarakay]

Kens bike was stolen at the meet and greet. So I'm pretty sure it ended up abandoned somewhere. Hopefully it is rescued and used bt yellow bikes or some such. Never was turned in to last and found.
And I'm surprised by trilo's statement too. I never heard about just leaving them.

[Elderberry]

Kens bike was stolen at the meet and greet. So I'm pretty sure it ended up abandoned somewhere. Hopefully it is rescued and used bt yellow bikes or some such. Never was turned in to last and found.
And I'm surprised by trilo's statement too. I never heard about just leaving them.

Me either.

[trilobyte]

Don't steal bikes is not new.

Lost/abandoned bikes don't count as MOOP. If you're concerned about them, move any bikes abandoned at your camp to the 'curb' of the street where your frontage is.

Here's the thing about hauling bikes off the playa. For the most part, it's stealing. Most bikes that go missing at Burning Man are some dumbass pedals it off for a quick ride to wherever, and then 9 times out of ten just abandons it. So there's this bike sitting abandoned somewhere, but somebody out there misses it and probably wants it back. If the bike got ditched at your camp and you haul it off, whether it's to keep or to recycle, you've effectively taken someone else's property from the event without the owner's permission.

In past years, Burning Man had encouraged people to take lost bikes to a designated spot, but found that a) that didn't necessarily help, and that b) people frequently didn't know about or didn't bother to take it to the designated point. Also, if a bike that was left behind by a drunk person (sometimes people are far from sober and forget they rode to <insert location> by bike, only to remember the next day) ends up being moved, the chances of it being found again on-playa drop to zero. Burning Man picks up all the bikes remaining at the end of the event, and has pretty solid centralized Lost & Found/Lost Bike process (shout out to [email protected]). Do not remove someone else's property from the event without the owner's permission.

[tamarakay]

Wow, in that case just at bdc there would have been one monkeyhut, two chairs, a tent, an ice chest, and several bikes left behind.

[fresh]

I swear I just read somewhere that taking a bicycle that is not yours off-playa can be considered theft. Please do not take abandoned bikes with you. There is some effort to get bikes back to owners and there is a separate "Lost and Found Bike Database" at Playa Info for this purpose. Most other bikes collected are made into yellow bikes or donated to local organizations.

If you do find an unclaimed and abandoned bike in your camp, the correct protocol would be to put out in the road in front of your camp area. It is quite possible that the owner will still be looking for it. It can easily be, 'I forgot where I left it', but also it could be that lucky person found their 'stolen' bike. Not sure whether you might get a red mark if the bike is lying in the middle of your camp since IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE!!! The red dots with black border on the MOOP Map are big pieces that were abandoned and most likely DPW kept an account of these items. If your camp got one, maybe you can contact Playa Resto for more info about it.

I believe the bike collection is completely separate from Playa Resto teams. They swung by our camp on Tuesday with a flat bed picking up Green bikes and abandoned bikes in the road. It looked like they were not making any notations. I did have to wave em down to bring them one bike that was too close to our camp for them to realize it was abandoned. The happily took the bike as well as the 10 cans of STILL COLD PBR. Saved the rest for the Resto team.

On another note, I think you can say you got a cool and unique bike when the guy driving the bike collection truck stops, gets out of the truck, looks at your ride and asks if he can hop on it for a quick circle or two.

[Elliot]

A couple of years ago I was inspected by two BRC Rangers while I was loading up to leave. Seems I had a suspicious number of bicycles for so small a camp. After cheerfully documenting that these bikes had been gifted to my Bicycle Repair And Lending Service camp, all was of course well.

They told me they had caught one fellow with a big RV packed to the rafters with stolen bikes -- all particularly nice ones suitable for resale. No excuse, no mitigating circumstances; pure deliberate well-organized theft. Book'im, Danno.

[maryanimal]

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[pink]

BLM camp is red???

[Elliot]

BLM camp is red???

I saw that and was so staggered I wasn't able to post. WTF?!

[danibel]

BLM camp is red???

I don't know. Seems fitting. Just how much do they really care about the playa? They are paid to be there ...

[Savannah]

What if the tent owners were working Exodus?

Thank you! . . . I've never attended the event driving my own vehicle, and I've had a tent on playa without a vehicle next to it as late as Tuesday morning (and if I were working Exodus/DPW, I'd probably stay later).

Unless you're certain a tent has been abandoned (because it's on your parcel of land, and you know the person to have fled, etc) . . . don't take a tent. DPW will make the call eventually.

[The CO]

How delightful to see our entire village green!

[MyDearFriend]

Do not haul any bike off the playa unless it belongs to you or a campmate/friend. The right thing to do with abandoned bikes is to leave them where they lay.

Thank you for the information, Trilo. Does this mean we should take everything abandoned in our village to Playa Info? What if Playa Info closes before we leave? Should we leave things in the street?

I really thought I should "leave no trace," seriously, whether it was my personal trace or not.

[trilobyte]

Jesus, that's some pretty serious village mismanagement if you wound up with people setting up monkeyhuts and tents and shit without you having a clue it was going on until the end of the event. When you register as a camp or village, you take on a responsibility for that space, and for cleaning up after it. The camp leader is responsible for the people who camp there - if you end up allowing additional people into your camp, you're taking on the responsibility to clean up after them as well. In the case of a village, the responsibility for all the camps in that village falls on the shoulders of the village leader.

If you truly have L&F stuff, take it to Playa Info. They're open for lost and found business through labor day (their other services wind down on Sunday, I believe). If you miss that opportunity and end up taking it home, post the items on the Found items board.

Regardless of how poorly the camp/village and its LNT plan is managed, don't take bikes from the event without the owner's permission. Finders keepers, loser weepers does not apply.

In other news, the Day 3 blog post went up yesterday (thanks for posting the link to the map, maryanimal)



Looks like some rain made the task a little harder, but the team is getting 'er done regardless. Cheers to DA, The Hun, and the rest of the Playa Restoration team!

[britzbitz]

BLM camp is red???

I saw that and was so staggered I wasn't able to post. WTF?!

I was struck by the irony of that when I noticed it last night.

((also, hi everyone. I haven't been here in a really long time.))

[Dr. Pyro]

Wow, in that case just at bdc there would have been one monkeyhut, two chairs, a tent, an ice chest, and several bikes left behind.

We are pretty sure we know who this was (hint: she was a newbie at least to our camp) and was the first person officially expelled from BDC for 2014. Talk about your addition by subtraction.

[MyDearFriend]

Wow, in that case just at bdc there would have been one monkeyhut, two chairs, a tent, an ice chest, and several bikes left behind.

We are pretty sure we know who this was (hint: she was a newbie at least to our camp) and was the first person officially expelled from BDC for 2014. Talk about your addition by subtraction.

*smooch* Thanks, Doc! Not that I didn't like her, but, we can't be having that.

[tamarakay]

I would think the lnt plan worked if others felt responsible and removed left items. That, to me, is a success story. An unsuccessful plan would have had others in the area leave items as someone else's problem.

No one is questioning your opinion or arguing really. I am simply more than a little surprised bikes should be left. From now on bikes will be wheeled to the street and left there for someone else to deal with. And I'll try not to feel like a shit about it.

[EspressoDude]

just don't leave the bikes in the streets for people to drive over