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Ashes in Temple

Post by stinkpot » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:33 am

I have heard that you cannot leave ashes in the Temple. true? Is costume jewelry OK? or a small metal soldier? thanks for the help.

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by AntiM » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:37 am

You can leave ashes in the Temple. Make sure they're in a combustible container (look on Amazon for bio-degradable urns). I am taking my husband's ashes this year, and his kilt. Hell, a whole skeleton dressed in his gear to hold his paper urn.

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by Molotov » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:39 am

In the EIS comments, the local Indian tribes objected to any human remains (including cremains) being left or interred on the playa. Sounds unenforceable to me. Just too many places to look.

Use an unobtrusive container for the ashes, like a manila envelope. Don't ask, don't tell. Nobody, except you, will know.

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by MrHedgehog » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:02 am

AntiM wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:37 am
You can leave ashes in the Temple. Make sure they're in a combustible container (look on Amazon for bio-degradable urns). I am taking my husband's ashes this year, and his kilt. Hell, a whole skeleton dressed in his gear to hold his paper urn.
CREMATED REMAINS (ASHES)

Of special note is the topic of placing cremains in the Temple

Over the years, many participants have sought to place the cremated remains of loved ones in the Temple to provide a final release of their spirit.

While this is understandable, and poignant, the placement of cremated remains without a permit is not allowed by current federal law, and Temple Guardians are not to participate in or facilitate the placing of ashes in the Temple.

The statement from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) may be found here:

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files ... att1_0.pdf

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by Ratty » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:36 am

AntiM You are as 'casual' as they come. No permit needed.
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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by stinkpot » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:37 am

Thanks very much. How about a toy metal soldier and costume jewelry?

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by Ratty » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:42 am

Fair warning! If I give you a tiny bottle necklace that ain't playa dust in it.
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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by MrHedgehog » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:47 pm

I merely point out that the situation is a bit more complex than AntiM's blanket "You can leave ashes in the Temple", and that you should not seek help or assistance from a Temple Guardian.

I sincerely doubt that any Temple Guardian would ever ask to see someone's Permit, or attempt to enforce whatever their personal interpretation is of that Federal law and the BLM's writings on it.

But that is just my individual understanding of the Temple Guardian's job.

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by MyDearFriend » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:09 pm

stinkpot wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:37 am
Thanks very much. How about a toy metal soldier and costume jewelry?
Should be okay. I left a two-foot high bride doll once, lots of little metal & costumery there, people going by just cried.

Fair warning: participants come out to sift the ashes when they cool, to make mournful mementos or whatever, so if it would squeek you out to have some random person fondling your burnt stuff don't leave it in the Temple.
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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by Ratty » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:16 pm

MDF. You just made me laugh. "some random person fondling your burnt stuff". Isn't that a reason to go to the event in the first place? So some old guy was licking my tit when I heard the one thing I didn't want to hear. "Hey Ruth. Is that you?"
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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by stinkpot » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:44 am

Thanks for all the replies - y'all are funny! see ya in the dust

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by AntiM » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:51 am

Thank you for the correction, it is duly noted.
MrHedgehog wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:02 am
AntiM wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:37 am
You can leave ashes in the Temple. Make sure they're in a combustible container (look on Amazon for bio-degradable urns). I am taking my husband's ashes this year, and his kilt. Hell, a whole skeleton dressed in his gear to hold his paper urn.
CREMATED REMAINS (ASHES)

Of special note is the topic of placing cremains in the Temple

Over the years, many participants have sought to place the cremated remains of loved ones in the Temple to provide a final release of their spirit.

While this is understandable, and poignant, the placement of cremated remains without a permit is not allowed by current federal law, and Temple Guardians are not to participate in or facilitate the placing of ashes in the Temple.

The statement from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) may be found here:

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files ... att1_0.pdf

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Re: Ashes in Temple

Post by AntiM » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:58 am

However, there are a number of articles, recent ones, saying that ashes are routinely left in the Temple. So make your choice. It isn't scattering, so there's that.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... h-mourning

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