Are bubbles moop?

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Are bubbles moop?

Post by Bluemandrew » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:09 pm

Well? If I put a bubble machine on my bike am I whimsical or an asshole?

Or a whimsical asshole?

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Post by ygmir » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:16 pm

if you fart, it'll counter act any moopishness from the bubbles.......
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Post by motskyroonmatick » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:37 pm

Use photo-biodegradable soap?

Ive seen bubbles on the playa. I don't think they are that bad compared to all the beer that gets dumped on the ground. Or those damn ribbon things that people put up. Those things moop like crazy!

Go for it. Operate it when the wind is low and always when ravers are near.
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Post by Sham » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:16 pm

Go for the bubbles. I don't see any issue with a popped bubble being misconstrued as moop. My thought is the more bubbles, the better. :D

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Post by Elliot » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:35 pm

:D
Just my personal two cents worth, but I feel pretty sure it is OK.

Your thinking is correct -- technically, it probably constitutes spilling soap on the ground.

But realistically, Ygmir probably pollutes the Playa more every time he farts, so I think your soap rates well below the MOOP Treshold.

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Post by ygmir » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:14 pm

definition

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from the archaic:

n.
the bearer of sweet aromas, reminiscent of the rose

adj.
to smell like a rose, pleasant, intoxicating.

verb
to produce, or emit, a pleasant, rose-like fragrance.
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Post by Bob » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:22 pm

You are a waste of time for asking.
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Post by Elliot » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:31 pm

:D
By golly, Ygmir... You've done it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart_Proudly

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Post by AntiM » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:37 am

As long as you move the bubble machine a bit so you don't make a nasty mud puddle...

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Post by geospyder » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:53 am

I have a large bubble wand sitting on my desk that I plan to take to Burningman this year. It should be fun riding the bike making large bubbles.
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Post by TomServo » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:02 am

Been thinking about rigging propane to a bubble machine...and placing a bunch of candles around....or maybe aim it at my burn barrel...
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Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:37 am

That might possibly be the coolest idea I've ever heard.
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Post by Rice » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 am

ygmir wrote:definition

Ygmir (ig-meer)

from the archaic:

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the bearer of sweet aromas, reminiscent of the rose

adj.
to smell like a rose, pleasant, intoxicating.

verb
to produce, or emit, a pleasant, rose-like fragrance.
Isn't that a Natural, organic, biological discharge with occasional negative odor???

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Post by motskyroonmatick » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:47 am

TomServo wrote:Been thinking about rigging propane to a bubble machine...and placing a bunch of candles around....or maybe aim it at my burn barrel...
One year there was a camp that did that with hydrogen. The bubbles rose in the air and participants could pop them with cattle prod like tazers. It was all contained in a dome so it would actually work. It was really pretty amazing.

Remember there is some wind for nearly the entire event. Build dealing with that in to your plans.
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Post by Elliot » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:37 pm

:D
I love this idea of popping propane or hydrogen bubbles. Haven't done that since high school chemistry lab! Hydrogen rises, so the structure ought to have a vent at the top so unburned hydrogen does not accumulate. Similarly with unburned propane, but propane is heavier than air and sinks to the floor.
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Post by ygmir » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:47 pm

IIRC, they did something similar on "Mythbusters", made some sort of soap/foam I think, using hydrogen, it rose in a column, then, they lit the bottom........again, though, indoors.
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Post by AntiM » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:08 pm

ygmir wrote:IIRC, they did something similar on "Mythbusters", made some sort of soap/foam I think, using hydrogen, it rose in a column, then, they lit the bottom........again, though, indoors.
This has been done on the playa, couple years in a row. We got to pop them, zappow wow! I don't remember the name of the camp, but I bet I could look it up.

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Post by Thecatman » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:10 pm

stretch80 wrote:Isn"t that a Natural, organic, biological discharge with occasional negative odor???
Sometimes I take a clove of garlic to eat with my lunch(cuz I luv garlic). After an hour or two and a can of Ginger Ale later, I'll have to burp. Everybody around me starts gagging.
Along the same lines, similar results but from the other end.

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Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:36 pm

I realized a bit later that since propane is heavier than air the bubbles wouldn't float... but hydrogen works huh? Oh I gotta do this!
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Post by ygmir » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:38 pm

there was some really good formula they used, so the bubbles lasted and made a column............seems it was some sort of detergent.
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Post by Elliot » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:47 pm

:D
Captain Goddammit wrote:... but hydrogen works huh? Oh I gotta do this!
Been done:

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Post by ygmir » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:48 pm

*see, I told you Elliot was a genius*
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Post by Ranger Genius » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:48 pm

There was a fire art piece at Element-11 this year that consisted of a big cauldron of soapy water with a propane jet at the bottom. Bubbles of propane would accumulate and drift around on the surface. When they got near the pilot light they would burst and burn, a few at a time. After enough of them accumulated to reach a critical mass, there would be a chain reaction that would clear the field to a blank state and it would all start over. It was amazing, but unphotographable. The flaming zen garden by the same artist, however...
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Post by TomServo » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:49 pm

What about pure oxygen? Anyone know its properties?
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Post by ygmir » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:55 pm

oxygen allows other things to burn at a faster rate. If that's what your asking.
Burning being oxidation, you'd need another material, that will react with the oxygen, using flame, to, get it to "burn".
The oxygen itself doesn't burn, though, it causes other stuff to.

it would also be neutrally buoyant as far as the atmosphere goes.

If my memory is correct.........and, that's debatable......
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Post by Ranger Genius » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:26 pm

Methane is bouyant in atmosphere.

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Post by ygmir » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:32 pm

I can see inventive ways of capturing methane in a hose to make those bubbles just like on the vid above..........
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Post by dragonfly Jafe » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:43 am

participatory art...?
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Post by ygmir » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:25 am

or performance, depending on your POV..........
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Post by Elliot » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:40 am

:D
Ah yes, I was waiting for you to get back to that. Ben Franklin last time -- now Bill Shakespeare:

"Wherefore art thou named Ygmir? What's in a name? A fart, by any other name, would smell as rank!"

Or something close to that. :lol:

I swear there was a TV commercial a couple of decades ago, where a fellow lit a fart. But I suppose I actually dreamed that. (These days, such behavior is all over YouTube. And yes, I've seen Bud horse. :lol: )

Oh, the humanity!
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