Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

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Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby nudecouple » Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:25 am

We'll be bringing our travel trailer to BM and we have an outdoor shower. Can we use it to rinse off dust before heading in?
It would just be water, no soaps/shampoo, is this kosher? I mean it does rain sometimes right? lol

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby gaminwench » Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:44 am

Put a tub and/or towels underneath you, it'll evaporate.

Don't make a playa mud puddle.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby EGAZ » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:48 am

Yup, gotta catch it and get rid of it. Evap or carry out.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby GreyCoyote » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:27 am

It does indeed rain :) and it sorta brings the event to its knees for a few hours (or potentially days) until it dries-out.

Nudity? No problem. Untreated water that has been in body contact dumped on the playa in one place? Big problem. If BLM sees this, it will potentially become a $$$ problem.

Elaborating on what GaminWench said above: Bring a dozen old towels and some plastic sheeting or mortar tub. Put the sheeting/tub on the ground and toss a couple of towels down. Use a (clean) 1 gallon herbicide pump sprayer filled with clean water and have Friend help you. Start at the top of your body and work the gunk down. You can take a really nice shower in less than a gallon this way. When done, hang up the (unbelievably) dirty towels to dry and you are done. Yes, the towels are now really yuckie, but you can still use them to shower on. They are just evap media and except for your feet, they never touch you. Make the uckie towels it a sport. We make bets as to how long it will take until they stand-up by themselves. Or answer to names. :D
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Captain Goddammit » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:52 am

Also, rules aside, you don't want to do this.
Playa mud is really sticky and awful.
You'll have a hell of a mess and create more problems than you solve.

If you want to do something to reduce dust coming in, bring an air compressor and blow off before going in. That works really well!
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby ygmir » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:15 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:Also, rules aside, you don't want to do this.
Playa mud is really sticky and awful.
You'll have a hell of a mess and create more problems than you solve.

If you want to do something to reduce dust coming in, bring an air compressor and blow off before going in. That works really well!


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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby dustyfux » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:21 pm

Also, turn off your water pump / lock the outside shower when not in use.

Last thing you want to see is a ZERO fresh water on Tuesday morning cause some dickwad didn't fully close the faucet.

Was teached that one the hard way.

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Canoe » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:30 pm

The playa soil/dust you'd be washing off has the usual playa biologicals in it, including: aquatic micro-fauna eggs or dead body parts, bacteria normally on the playa, bacteria in droppings deposited by migratory birds, bacteria blown in off of surrounding land and the bacteria in the water that the water trucks spray on the dusty BRC roads (Total Coliform 1,732.9 mg / 100 mL, Escherichia Coli (e. Coli) 11.0 mg / 100 mL, for over 5,000 lbs of E. Coli bacteria spread on to the playa each year at burning man).

So going around with vulnerable infection locations exposed, you do want to get that dust off in a timely manner.

Caught/reported for letting body-exposed water onto the playa, not only $$$, it can also mean immediate eviction from the playa.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Weldingpaines » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:57 pm

So what happens if it does rain are you allowed to take a natural rain shower or are you supposed to just hunker down and not let a drop of water off your body onto the playa

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby AntiM » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:26 am

Weldingpaines wrote:So what happens if it does rain are you allowed to take a natural rain shower or are you supposed to just hunker down and not let a drop of water off your body onto the playa


Actually, you're supposed to hunker down so you don't make ruts as the playa mud sticks to your feet or wheels and makes playa platforms. It rarely rains enough for a shower anyway. When it does, it is cold as hell, windy, and two years ago someone was struck by lightning.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Corvus » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:57 am

AntiM wrote: and two years ago someone was struck by lightning.

Not quite. He was about three feet from a pole that was struck. He was instantly dubbed with "Lucky" as a playa name.

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby AntiM » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:00 am

Three feet is close enough for hand grenades and nuclear weapons!
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:49 am

AntiM wrote:Three feet is close enough for hand grenades and nuclear weapons!

As someone who has actually been struck by lightning, three feet may as well be miles. You have no idea.

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby AntiM » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:09 am

Interesting, is this a story you share? I'd find it fascinating.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Ratty » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:52 am

Doc, That explains a lot.
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:14 pm

Ratty wrote:Doc, That explains a lot.

Like I haven't heard that before.

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby 666isMONEY » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:16 pm

I rinse off with a dishpan of water and wet bandanna. The dust in the water settles on the bottom and can be poured off and reused. (Also good for soaking your feet.) It's okay to pour out the gallon or so on the playa, dries up really quick but can be slippery if someone steps on it.

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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Traveller in Time » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:59 pm

Being struck by lightning or any discharge knocking you off your feet can be an enlightening experience. As long as you can tell the tale.
Feels like a temporary reset of the brain, muscle by muscle flexing to feel if they still react afterward.
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Apparently it is not OK to spill any drop deliberately on the playa.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby AntiM » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:14 pm

I had some nice 120V through my hand when I discovered a secondary power source in the gear I was working on. Stunning, there's a word.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Mountain Bobby » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:26 pm

Nice avatar nudecouple, too bad you both have such square faces!
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby BBadger » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:21 pm

Ratty wrote:Doc, That explains a lot.


Especially the hair.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Captain Goddammit » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:57 pm

Mountain Bobby wrote:Nice avatar nudecouple, too bad you both have such square faces!

I hadn't even blown it up to look... I gotta say, that's creepy and slimy to post just your naked junk and cover your faces.
Creepy, slimy and lame.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby some seeing eye » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:26 pm

BM has a very small number of rules which were created because burners fucked up, the BLM created the rule, or the need for insurance created the rule. They are all there for good reasons. You heard all that above.

Not sure why someone would need to shower inbound on the playa. The rules apply to that and showering mid week.

Outbound showering is usually off-playa because it is hard to evaporate, evapotron the waste water quickly enough at the end of the event. People usually do their showering outbound at a truck stop, casino/hotel or hot springs.

It's really nice to change into a completely clean set of clothes after a warm hot shower and get some food, maybe even some sleep, rather than pushing through on a long drive home dusty and sleepy.

The prep guide and threads here have info in grey water gray water, which is what shower water and kitchen cleaning water is.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby BBadger » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:27 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Mountain Bobby wrote:Nice avatar nudecouple, too bad you both have such square faces!

I hadn't even blown it up to look... I gotta say, that's creepy and slimy to post just your naked junk and cover your faces.
Creepy, slimy and lame.


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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Mountain Bobby » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:16 pm

BBadger wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:
Mountain Bobby wrote:Nice avatar nudecouple, too bad you both have such square faces!


A couple of block-cockers.


Anyway, you guys can stop by my tent anytime you want, once I find out where I will be setting up at! But please leave your face masks at home.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby Captain Goddammit » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:30 pm

Maybe they bring them to sit on when they're at someone else's place like proper nudists.
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Re: Rinsing off with an outdoor RV shower

Postby FlyingMonkey » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:49 am

Dr. Pyro wrote:
AntiM wrote:Three feet is close enough for hand grenades and nuclear weapons!

As someone who has actually been struck by lightning, three feet may as well be miles. You have no idea.


That explains the hair :-)
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