2016 Moop Map

Talk about your camp or project's LNT plans (and MOOP problems) here. Discuss cleanup tips. Ask questions or share ideas on what works and what doesn't.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby mudpuppy000 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:58 pm

I usually just use washers and lag through the metal loops in ratchet straps or carport legs, so there's no way you can possibly get what is secured off without removing the lag first. I guess that's the downside of using chain links and hooking something to them.

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby AntiM » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:01 pm

We use the orange circles cut out of swamp cooler buckets, with a hole punched in the middle, as floor or rug
washers. Visible and very sturdy. Would work just as well with the lag screws. I don't have a picture, but will try to remember to take one.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Jackass » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:14 pm

The same people that left all of their rebar still in the ground also left their piss jugs. I'm a big fan of the LNT theory, and I like to help out, but handling other people's fluids is above my pay grade. That's all their is to that. Is there an LNT advocate here that handles their neighbor's human waste as part of their LNT efforts?
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Elliot » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:16 pm

Two of my red cloths were right at the edge of the street, marking the "residential" / "fire lane" entrance. They were still easy to find after two weeks, and they were only six or eight inches square.

The material they are made of probably matters. We had two red velvet ropes at our main shop entrance, and they are still bright red when I look at them now. The spike-flags are also a velvet sort'a material, from a Christmas decoration.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Jackass » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:11 am

Yeah, but are you willing to scoop up your neighbor's turds or empty their piss bucket for them if they "happen" to forget it behind at their camp after they've left?...

I'm trying to find out if anyone here considers that to be part of the routine when addressing their LNT plan.

I know we've got some moop maniacs here...
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby GreyCoyote » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:02 am

My first thought was if the jug is intact and can be safely moved without fluids contact, sure. Anybody who has had kids has been exposed to far worse. But upon further reflection, I realized we are only doing our community a disservice by hiding their transgressions. If we leave it there, Resto will see it, map it, and that becomes part of the MOOP map. if its a placed camp then they will have some serious explaining to do next year when they are trying to get placement.

I'd leave it.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Skuzzy61 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:03 am

Jackass wrote:Yeah, but are you willing to scoop up your neighbor's turds or empty their piss bucket for them if they "happen" to forget it behind at their camp after they've left?...<snip>


Yes, I would have. My neighbors are all part of the same camp I was. I would have told the camp supervisor about it as well.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Jackass » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:28 am

These neighbors of mine were not part of my camp, not even acquaintances. They were probably close to 100 yards from me, I have no clue who camped there.

P.S. I'd rather have freshly squeezed baby piss on me any day, over some dark orange piss that's been cooking in a jug for a week plus in the Nevada high desert sun. Even going to dump your own can easily turn your stomach, unless you're used to working with dead, rotting animals...
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Ratty » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:59 pm

Jackass I love you but....It's lunchtime here in Nor Cal so can we talk about cake? How about how everything is pumpkin flavored for a couple of months? No. I wouldn't like pumpkin in my coffee thank you. Or my beer.

There. Now my mind is clear.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby lucky420 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:59 pm

Jackass wrote:These neighbors of mine were not part of my camp, not even acquaintances. They were probably close to 100 yards from me, I have no clue who camped there.

P.S. I'd rather have freshly squeezed baby piss on me any day, over some dark orange piss that's been cooking in a jug for a week plus in the Nevada high desert sun. Even going to dump your own can easily turn your stomach, unless you're used to working with dead, rotting animals...


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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby danibel » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:34 pm

Two years ago, maybe three, I don't know - they blend, some a holes left a 3 gallon pee jug in the middle of the block. It looked like they may have funneled shit into it too, it was black/brown, disgusting. I walked past it multiple times and the thought of taking it never entered my mind. Sorry. No way.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Meat Hunter » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:07 pm

MOOP Day 4 has been posted in the Journal.

http://journal.burningman.org/2016/09/b ... -day-four/
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Dr Helix » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:29 pm

Can anyone tell me a way to zoom in on it? Hard time seeing my camp
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby VultureChow » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:32 pm

It's not the giant map. So it's a bit fuzzy on the camp level. Right click on the picture and select open in new tab. Then you can zoom in a bit more. Or save it to your computer and use image editing software to zoom in.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Elliot » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:23 pm

As I recall, they publish a big and detailed map when they are all done.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:18 pm

It appears that Barbie Death Village is solid green!

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Elliot » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:55 pm

Would I seem elitist if I suggest that three dumpsters of big trash, and even a single piece of large living room furniture... constitute a pathetic failure to grasp a fundamental concept of the event?
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby BBadger » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:19 pm

Meat Hunter wrote:MOOP Day 4 has been posted in the Journal.

http://journal.burningman.org/2016/09/b ... -day-four/


That's a huge pile of cocaine in the "special MOOP" photo!

Dr Helix wrote:Can anyone tell me a way to zoom in on it? Hard time seeing my camp


Though not perfect, you can right-click the map image and open it into a new tab and it should be larger, but not super awesome.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Dr Helix » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:30 am

BBadger wrote:
Meat Hunter wrote:MOOP Day 4 has been posted in the Journal.

http://journal.burningman.org/2016/09/b ... -day-four/


That's a huge pile of cocaine in the "special MOOP" photo!

Dr Helix wrote:Can anyone tell me a way to zoom in on it? Hard time seeing my camp


Though not perfect, you can right-click the map image and open it into a new tab and it should be larger, but not super awesome.

Thanks, that helped.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby ACfromSAC » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:57 am

Elliot wrote:Would I seem elitist if I suggest that three dumpsters of big trash, and even a single piece of large living room furniture... constitute a pathetic failure to grasp a fundamental concept of the event?

Let's not jump to conclusions. Perhaps they didn't realize that they forgot to pack the sofa on the way out and overlookedit while doing their moop sweep?

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Ratty » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:50 am

I feel sorry for the last guy out. Sometimes it won't fit in the truck.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby maladroit » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:28 pm

I saw a last guy out, once. He refused help from us. Second-to-last guys split in their van which was loaded but not deadly. He ran after them yelling. Then shuffled back to camp. Took down a goodly sized dome (20? 30?) feet across. Strapped all of that on top of his compact sedan. Then strapped a couch on top of the metal rods. Then strapped a second couch on top of that first couch. I think the car was so full that the roof didn't collapse. I don't know how the car even moved, but it left. No idea how far it got. You have to admire that refusal to leave a couch on the playa.

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Elliot » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:17 am

Admirable, indeed.
But ought to have been avoidable with better planning.

As our Last Guy Out, I take at least 20 photos of the pristine site.

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(This year, the trailer did not break in half.)
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby maladroit » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:37 pm

Elliot wrote:(This year, the trailer did not break in half.)


I got chills remembering that hitch held on with a shred of tinfoil.

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby gaminwench » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:25 pm

So lovely, Elliot, all of those bikes tucked neatly on top of Millicent.
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Elliot » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:34 pm

There were 60 bikes up there. My crew did an amazing job with it! And big thanks to the man with the long-reach fork-lift!
To transport and store bikes tightly, we remove the pedals and turn the handlebars sideways (lenghtways, actually :wink: ).
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby silas thatcher » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:30 pm

the founders of pandora's fix it shop and lounge usually have a trusted person that stays until the last camp mate is gone, does a final moop sweep, and takes a picture of the camp....

one year, someone left a bike after every one left and they got dinged, so now they take pics.....

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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby bigbluedoggy » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:05 pm

I have a question regarding the map in general. I noticed that there are some areas amongst the placed camps that are marked with a big X thru the entire square. I looked back at the 2015 map and there are squares marked with X's there as well. Who can explain what they mean? Is it simply unreserved space left amidst the placed camps or is it camps that don't want their names on the map or what?
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby BBadger » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:10 pm

They're BRC "black sites" where hippies go for intensive "interrogation."

Though really, where? I don't see them on the map. Are they on this MOOP map from 2015?
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Re: 2016 Moop Map

Postby Ratty » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:21 pm

My uneducated guess would be that the camp didn't show up. Or they showed up and found that location to be the pitts so they went elsewhere. Yes. People do that. Even though they won't get placed in the future. The following year they form a new camp with a new leader and start over.
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