Ruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnn, duck & cover!
The sky is fallingggggggg, the sky is fallingggggggggg.


I'm thinking that this move is more an effort to placate the local authorities and highway dept than anything else. A bit of a CYA move. Don't have a problem with it. We are a hugely disruptive force for the locals.Corvus wrote:This should be every burnar's mantra.VultureChow wrote:I'm not worrying about it. The man will burn, and I will be there. I'm just interested to see how it works out.
I'm wondering about the road damage comment. What with the sheetrock plant in Empire closing a couple years ago, I can see Ingress/Exodus being the most traffic by far for the two weeks they happen, but the number of BRC citizens driving 80,000 lb semitrailers has to be pretty miniscule.
Nope. We ran a village. We had very efficient and organized folk in leadership positions and while we knew early one about our core membership, we had several campers that were in a ebb and flow situation on an annual basis, job issues, camp defaultia curve balls, etc.moonwatcher wrote:Highly organized camps, camps that have many years of experience on the playa, probably already know how many vehicle passes they will need (+/-).
I predict as many as 9 RV's breaking in half this year because people do not understand axle limits, GVW and how all that open space in a cheap RV does not mean stuff it full.EspressoDude wrote:Oh and those road shoulders gonna get worse with overloaded vehicles trying to save $40 that get flat tires or lose control
If I were to be totally honest, with some more careful packing I could fit another human being and two suitcases into my car.Captain Goddammit wrote:Oh yeah. There are so many people driving extra unneeded vehicles to Burning Man. Every vehicle that comes through the gate isn't loaded to or beyond capacity. Right? Bullshit !!!
I could likely get another stick of gum and extra pair of shoelaces in if I cleaned out the ashtray.Captain Goddammit wrote: Seriously does anyone know anyone who isn't already maximizing every inch of space in their vehicle?
Fair enough. But I think there are many vehicles not doing barricade duty that could be moved. Maybe half of them? Dunno. Just thinking out loud.AntiM wrote:We use vehicles in our village as traffic blocks. People see the interior paths in the village and try to drive down them, to cut through the double block. We arrange the vehicles so bikes can get around, but not cars.
They are not worried about repaving the playa, they are worried about the roads coming into the event.GreyCoyote wrote:Fair enough. But I think there are many vehicles not doing barricade duty that could be moved. Maybe half of them? Dunno. Just thinking out loud.
As a Gate veteran I can say with some authority that 95% of the vehicles I interact with are stuffed to capacity.Captain Goddammit wrote:Ok there's the fly-in people who rent cars to get to the playa.
Other than that who really shows up in a vehicle empty enough to carry someone else and all their gear? And how rare is that, if there's anyone?
I think I could maybe fit someone in my passenger seat if they're willing to hold all their gear on their lap the whole time.GreyCoyote wrote:I could likely get another stick of gum and extra pair of shoelaces in if I cleaned out the ashtray.Captain Goddammit wrote: Seriously does anyone know anyone who isn't already maximizing every inch of space in their vehicle?
We are still trying to figure that out. We're not sure if he has one enormous ball or an udder.CapSmashy wrote:Is the goat anatomically correct?
You're pretty sure about that!TT120 wrote:People ARE going to hoard the vehicle passes.
There WILL be a shortage of passes when the main sale goes live.
I could probably squeeze another person into my truck but no way in hell could I fit another person AND all their gear for a week in there.
Remember that wash-out last winter?VultureChow wrote:I'm thinking that this move is more an effort to placate the local authorities and highway dept than anything else. A bit of a CYA move. Don't have a problem with it. We are a hugely disruptive force for the locals.Corvus wrote:This should be every burnar's mantra.VultureChow wrote:I'm not worrying about it. The man will burn, and I will be there. I'm just interested to see how it works out.
I'm wondering about the road damage comment. What with the sheetrock plant in Empire closing a couple years ago, I can see Ingress/Exodus being the most traffic by far for the two weeks they happen, but the number of BRC citizens driving 80,000 lb semitrailers has to be pretty miniscule.
That's a good point about the plant, though I wonder if the skill of the drivers has something to do with it. The soft shoulders are just ripe for asphalt disintegration. Maybe we, on a per capita basis are more likely to pull off and contribute to the erosion there.