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Post by mdmf007 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:04 pm

We get your point, truly. You think the system is broken and propose stifling sales by increasing the price to do so. Normally this would work, but this is an emotionally driven scheme - The tickets will sell at any price all this scheme does is screw people for no reason.

Want to stifle sales? make it an invite only event and forget public sales entirely. That will go over about as well.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:51 am

but it's one of the least civil message boards I participate on, if not the least,

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Post by maladroit » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:13 pm

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Post by GreyCoyote » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:23 pm

mdmf007 wrote:Make it an invite only event and forget public sales entirely. That will go over about as well.
You know... you might be on to something there... :mrgreen:
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Post by vargaso » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:47 am

Hey Brad, how would this "subsidized ticket" program work? You say you wouldn't have to prove income like in the current low income ticket program. So, let's say the auction tickets ended up at around $600 (a conservative number, in my opinion). That would absolutely price a lot of people out, not to mention further the frenzy for the year after, where people who underbid the first year would bid higher the next year, further driving ticket prices upwards. But back to the subsidized tickets, who would be eligible? How would people register? Who would make the decision on who qualifies for a ticket? Or, would it be another online registration and open sale? These tickets are free or just "discounted?" In either case, can you imagine the demand for these tickets? Free and/or cheap tickets to Burning Man, the frenzy would be even greater than it already is.

Can you address some of my questions here? We get it that you understand that ticket prices will rise, but what about these consequences (I can't even say unintended consequences, because they all seem pretty obvious to me)?

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:18 am

I think I have it figured out. As we all remember, this was an innovation of the Dutch Tulip Market. As we all remember, the Dutch Tulip Market crashed big time, and became the classic definition of a bubble. Therefore, if we adopt this method of selling tulips tickets, the bubble will pop, and the llc non-profit wont be able to give them away.


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Post by engineer2012 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:37 pm

bradtem wrote:
They probably didn't think that twice as many people would register for the individual sale as there were tickets. They might have decided it was worth $410 to take the risk, feeling that will a bunch of work they could find a ticket if they lost.
You would expext that as from the first sell out in 2011, people know that getting a ticket in the main sale is a risk, the risk of not getting a ticket. Demand is simply too high.
There are several reasons I can think of why people buy the high price pre-sale ticked. For me, I can only participate once every 3 years. It is just to expensive to go every year. The year I can/will participate, I need then to be more sure of a ticket. Pre-sale is more sure, at least, up to now. Second reason, flights, hotels etc needs to be arranged, as early as possible due to I am from Europe.
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