Commerce - questions, violations, and reporting them

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:19 am

Not that my opinion means anything cause it doesn't, but you're getting it anyway. I really wish any calls for admin action would end up in Case Studies:

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... start=1140

If the requests are over there it makes it a lot easier to search through historical actions and figure out what's acceptable, what's not and if not why. Plus it has 39 pages compared to this thread....

adept · Post by **adept** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:36 am

I have no sympathy for camp organizers who expect to throw a big theme camp with money other people give them... Delete their threads. They can throw a theme camp with what they own already, and stop renting a bunch of shit because that is the opposite of sustainable.

My friends and I started a church because we always loved the vibe generated by the people at a rave but we were so disgusted by the disrespect and commercialism we also found there. We found that promoters would make up whatever lie would get kids out there and pay their $25, including lies about illegal venues, what you're allowed to take inside, etc. We have great parties and everybody just shows up with what they have. No, I don't fly people in from israel to play the NEWEST GREATEST PSYTRANCE because church DJs volunteer to buy great new records from israel out of pocket and PLAY FOR FREE as a service to the church. In my opinion we're never lacking for talent.

Oh, and since we're completely non-profit, and NEVER charge money? We can generally get free permits from the BLM because we don't charge for the events. So far we're not even big enough to even bother with this--who is going to bust up a church campout? I'd like to see it, and we have the support of the local BLM field offices because they see how much service work we've done.

It's funny, I don't NEED 70000 watts of sound and a 30KW diesel generator to have a good time, but these wheeling and dealing FUCKS would rather make up a bunch of lies, rip people off, and put their illicitly gained cash into speaker rentals, generator rentals, and drugs... I hope every one of them gets caught dealing at a party they throw and gets the book of THE RAVE ACT thrown at them. I will never sell drugs at a party I throw so I have no fear of this legislation.

www.utahcofea.org For the first time in my life, I can say "I love church."

EDIT for relevance:
It reminds me of the asshole rave promoter who says "I'm throwing $11000 at this party!!! FUCK YOU if you don't like how I'm doing it!!!" when I get on here and see theme camp organizers talking about how they are going to be losing money on these events that they could never throw without being supported by a community. Don't disrespect just because you've already got the cash in your pocket and are now the KING PARTY GUY... It ruins everything.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:57 am

adept · Post by **adept** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:37 am

[quote="helitack"]Huh?[/quote]
What?! Where?

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:49 pm

The first paragraph had some merit after that....

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:32 pm

Absolute, pure, spamful COMMERCE:

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=14215

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:11 pm

I'd like to know others thoughts on this one.

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=15076

Commerce or not?

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:27 am

This appears to be comerce to me.
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=15332

BigCock · Post by **BigCock** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:05 pm

... and this, raised in Open Discussion:

http://www.lexus.com/460degrees/

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:32 pm

As I see it with the lexus thing, and this is just my personal opinion, since it was put in the discussion to illustrate how the images were being used, then no it is not commerce. It isn't as though toyota was pushing their vehicles here. All a matter of context and intent, and with intent, interpretation.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:26 pm

We interrupt the Lexus/Waffle discussion to bring you a solicitation to buy prescription drugs, via Shared Resources:

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:04 am

Ah, got it.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:10 am

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=15678

commerce attack

Don Muerto · Post by **Don Muerto** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:57 am

Am I the only one who got a little gem like this in my Private Message box?

"Hello i am a nice good looking girl called Favour by name, i will like you to understand my writting towards you, Before contacting you i have go through your profile at burningman site, i will like you to be my life partner, with love and happiness,and also i promise to always be giving you the full joy of life with every of your demand that you know that i can do with love, and also i will like you to contact me through my email address so that we can discourse many issue about our self and also i will attach some of my pictures in my next email ok. Thanks yours in heart Favour. [email protected]"

Tiara · Post by **Tiara** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:34 am

DM, I was just coming here to report the same PM spam:

Hello i am a nice good looking girl called Favour by name, i will like you to understand my writting towards you, Before contacting you i have go through your profile at burningman site, i will like you to be my life partner, with love and happiness,and also i promise to always be giving you the full joy of life with every of your demand that you know that i can do with love, and also i will like you to contact me through my email address so that we can discourse many issue about our self and also i will attach some of my pictures in my next email ok. Thanks yours in heart Favour. [email protected]

_________________
i am a nice good looking girl, i always looking to meet someone who is very well understanding and well character who will always give me the joy of life with love and happiness.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:50 pm

i think thats a first for that kinda pm crap, whata tool.

emily sparkle · Post by **emily sparkle** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:53 pm

spectabillis wrote:i think thats a first for that kinda pm crap, whata tool.

the nice girl sent it to me AND to the admin account. i think if i were a spammer i'd pay attention and not send it to admin.

i de-activated her. she never actually posted so i can't ban her. the email she used to register is a yahoo address, so i can't ban her. grr.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:21 am

My hobby is tracking down spamers and putting them here.

When you look at this blatant hidden ad post, you'll understand what I meant!

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=15744

Happy turkey day, kids...
bb

emily sparkle · Post by **emily sparkle** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:42 am

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:My hobby is tracking down spamers and putting them here.

When you look at this blatant hidden ad post, you'll understand what I meant!

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=15744

Happy turkey day, kids...
bb

i am thankful for bay bridge sue and all the other eplayans who help us stomp on spammers.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:52 am

And yet another to which I bring some holiday Jeer...

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=15743

And *I'm* thankful for Emily and all the rest who take care of this board (and whack these "moles")! You guys rock!

bb

emily sparkle · Post by **emily sparkle** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:56 am

got it! now i'm going to cut the veggies. step away from the computer.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:26 am

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 256#285256

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 255#285255

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 254#285254

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 253#285253

Oh, they're busy as beavers today.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:33 am

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 266#285266

Jeepers, they're fast, too!

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:20 pm

One more:

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 310#285310

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:36 am

Not sure if it's exactly commerce or not, it's a blog. A blog about making money online. Follow thine instinct.

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... highlight=

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:14 pm

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... highlight=

An attempt to sell popular prescription drugs, via *very* shoddy HTML.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:19 am

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 356#285356

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 359#285359
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 362#285362

Post by **AntiM** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:52 pm

Thanks for reporting them, I've deleted the threads/posts and passed along the IPs.

and now A RANT:

STOP REPLYING TO COMMERCE POSTS. !!! PLEASE !!! I far prefer deleting a single post than the entire damn witty thread. Of course, everyone has the right to post replies to these spammers, but they don't read them, and with every eplayan post in reply I have to decide if I'm going to delete the thread or simply the original post. Have Mercy! Don't reply to spammers! I got tired of sending PMs, so those of you who refrained, thanks, everyone else, please help me out, m'kay?

Rant over and out, thank you.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:40 pm

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Same content, little bit cleaned up, different name of the account.

It seems that the populi are heeding your rant, AntiM, no replies

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:24 pm

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 397#285397
and
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 405#285405