Holding people accountable

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JStep
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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by JStep » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:50 pm

TL;DR:
I gave EAPs to flakey people, they flaked, now I want to shift blame to the opportunists who accepted my EAPs.
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Lonesomebri
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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by Lonesomebri » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:03 pm

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, would it be better for me to start a major theme camp and get flakey people to help me out, or would it be faster for me to simply attach myself to a pre-existing competent camp but be a flakey member? What would be easier? How do I get on the Black List?

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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by mudpuppy000 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:20 pm

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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by wh..sh » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:22 pm

mudpuppy000 wrote:Image
*spits water on the screen* That is a damn good gif!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by BBadger » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:28 am

Lonesomebri wrote:I guess what I am trying to figure out is, would it be better for me to start a major theme camp and get flakey people to help me out, or would it be faster for me to simply attach myself to a pre-existing competent camp but be a flakey member? What would be easier? How do I get on the Black List?
Don't set your sights so low! Instead, you can aspire to be someone like ender, and hand out EAP to people who are flakes--either on purpose, or simply out of shear incompetence.

Better to be a commander of flakes than the flake foot-soldier right?

Oh, and don't forget to be the shepherd who blames his flock! The workman who blames his tools! The camp EAP administrator who blames his campmates!
"The essence of tyranny is not iron law. It is capricious law." -- Christopher Hitchens

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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by Lonesomebri » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:21 am

BBadger wrote:Better to be a commander of flakes than the flake foot-soldier right?
I try to cover all the bases, with a maximum camp size of 2, I can be both commander and foot soldier ! This way, by the end of the week, it's me I can't stand. Haven't had the guts to Black List myself yet, that dude can be a real jerk when confronted. Blame? Everything is my fault. That's called taking credit.

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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:27 am

Lonesomebri wrote:
BBadger wrote:Better to be a commander of flakes than the flake foot-soldier right?
I try to cover all the bases, with a maximum camp size of 2, I can be both commander and foot soldier ! This way, by the end of the week, it's me I can't stand. Haven't had the guts to Black List myself yet, that dude can be a real jerk when confronted. Blame? Everything is my fault. That's called taking credit.
I know of a camp or two who use a varient of this model.
The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

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Re: Holding people accountable

Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:26 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Um, boy, if your people believe in your camp and its mission and in the fellow campers then they will stay. If they find something that's a better fit, then you can't keep them. I can't even get to the wrongness of this view... it's too bizarre.
Oh, bitter, bitter irony!
The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

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