Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

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Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby aidentrance » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:41 pm

It seems like there aren't any specific areas dedicated to helping theme camps and aspiring camp members link up.

It would really help to see some sections under the current year issues like these categories:

Theme Camps Seeking Members
...Tent camping members wanted
...RV camping members wanted
...Participants with assets

Participants Seeking Theme Camps (volunteer labor assumed)
...Willing to haul
...willing to arrive early to setup
...willing to stay late to clean up
...tents campers seeking theme camp
...RV campers seeking theme camp

There doesn't appear to be a consistent or dedicated area for such postings presently, or if something exists, it isn't obvious. This improvement would sure help manage common interests and resources at the event better.

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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby Jovankat » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:10 pm

That's what the 2015 Camps, Art & Activities section, where you've posted 2 threads, is for.

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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby Ratty » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:18 am

aidentrance, I see what you mean. Like the tickets wanted and tickets offered sections. That way camps and campers could easily shop for a match. Good idea.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby tamarakay » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:25 am

Yes, good suggestion. Easy to find and to the point.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby Eric » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:00 pm

In the past we've had a separate forum for Theme Camps and one for Art/ Projects, but while they each were about 3-4 pages long, they were low post count. This year we tried merging them to see if it would create more activity in that section (we actually changed a few of the 2015 event specific forums). The forum layout isn't written in stone, and we look at how things are performing to make decisions on future modifications. This layout is currently working fine, and it's not being changed this season.

Also, all the categories you've suggested are ones to fit your specific needs, not the best needs of the board as a whole, and are so micro-level that I can't see them being seriously considered. The specific posts by a camp can explain what the camp is looking for in members. We have to take the community into account, not what's going to be best for one camp.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby aidentrance » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:58 am

Well, whatever it is this year isn't working either, hence the suggestion.

Many people are aware that some theme camps want members, and are also aware than many campers would like to join theme camps. The barrier presented between the two continues to exist.

There remains a need for a clear and consistent option for camps and campers to link up. The current configuration isn't cutting it.

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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby Elderberry » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:40 am

How about word of mouth between existing campers? Not sure I'd enjoy the results of a camp recruited entirely off the internet.
And have you tried http://spark.burningman.org/? I think that's what that board is actually designed to do, especially if you're searching for people with specific skill sets.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby The CO » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:12 pm

aidentrance wrote:Well, whatever it is this year isn't working either, hence the suggestion.

Many people are aware that some theme camps want members, and are also aware than many campers would like to join theme camps. The barrier presented between the two continues to exist.

There remains a need for a clear and consistent option for camps and campers to link up. The current configuration isn't cutting it.



At this very moment in the "Camps, art and activities" there are 7 camps posted with "join us" or similar phrasing, just on the first page. I didn't count how many "seeking camp"posts there are.

I'm not sure I see a barrier.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby Eric » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:27 pm

aidentrance wrote:Well, whatever it is this year isn't working either, hence the suggestion.

Many people are aware that some theme camps want members, and are also aware than many campers would like to join theme camps. The barrier presented between the two continues to exist.

There remains a need for a clear and consistent option for camps and campers to link up. The current configuration isn't cutting it.


The configuration is fine. It is not, however, a guarantee that a camp will generate interest, or that people will flock to a camp.

You are the only camp that has complained about the way the Camps/ Arts/ Activities board is set up this year, and it's been this way since at least the beginning of the year. As I said in my post above, you are targeting a very specific subset of people, and I'm pretty sure most of the people in that category already have made plans by this late date. You might also want to look at the phrasing of your post and see if it's framed in a way to generate excitement and make someone want to camp with you. You are selling yourself. Lastly, just posting doesn't guarantee any responses. Period. All it's doing is allowing people to see you have room for new members - it's up to those potential members, not the board itself, to actually be interested.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby trilobyte » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:33 am

Just because you aren't personally getting a lot of response from your listing does not necessarily mean that the system itself is not working.

There are a couple main reasons for a point of failure. First, general laziness - meaning the individual can not be bothered to read through the board to find camps or campmates or whatever it is they're looking for. Second, lack of a compelling offer - meaning that people are not interested in the post for whatever reason (it's a subjective choice).

Addressing the first, we have a lot of history that shows that adding boards does not fix lazy. If they can't be bothered to look through one board, people will be even less bothered to look through multiple boards.

Addressing the second, making changes or additions to the board's structure will not make an offer any more (or less) compelling. It's also not the site's job to fill up your camp, or find you a camp.... so it's a little hard to give guidance here. Sometimes a camp dreams really big with a theme or an idea that's a bit more specialized... but it could also be a communications issue. The only camps that get a lot of response from very little posted details are either camps that have been around a while, or whose members are long-time active regular members of the site. Everybody else has to put some work into it.

That can be the toughest part for a lot of people, it's hard to put it all into words - and even harder still to clearly communicate your creative vision and passion. It should be bubbling with excitement! Links to a camp web site or FB page are nice, but if you're a returning camp and have pictures online perhaps embed an image or two showing the camp, your art, etc. If you've already posted a thread and it's not getting any activity, you can reply to that thread up to once a week to bump it, or (better still) to add more info. Tell people about events that are being planned, art that you're working on, or add another pic or two. Actually, even if you are getting a response, come back periodically and do that anyways - your camp thread is for you to not only recruit campmates but to get people excited about what you're doing. Half the fun (for me, anyways) of reading through the various camp threads is to see what kind of awesome stuff people are getting up to.

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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby Ratty » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:11 pm

Wait a darn minute Trillo, Tamarakay and I don't want results. We have a camp. (Sorry Tamarakay. You and I are the only yes votes so I have to use your name here. Strength in numbers and all that.) We just want it to be 'one click away' from all the inquiries, (read beggars), while we sit back and browse. At least that's why I liked the idea. Lazy? You betcha. I would love it if you could put them on a split screen and I could draw lines to match people with camps. Now THAT would be a hoot.
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby gaminwench » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:58 am

Ooooh, this could be a THING!!! (for next year)

Newbs post what they're looking for (blind)
Camps post what they're looking for (blind)

Eplaya denizens match up (or snark mercilessly) the newbs with the Camps!!! :twisted:

Like burner camp 'dating', online.
(what the hell was that show with the bachelors, old skool, called???) :roll:

Who's in??? 8)
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby FIGJAM » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:45 am

Mismatchmakers!!! :lol:
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Re: Sections for Placement of Participants with Theme Camps

Postby tamarakay » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:10 am

I'm in!
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