Roller coasters in the past?

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Roller coasters in the past?

Postby sparr » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:02 pm

I've found videos of a camp that brought a steel track ride with a U-shaped track and an enclosed car that flipped over. I can't find any info about anyone bringing something more traditionally roller-coaster-y, with a track that goes from point A to point B (or in a circle) with hills and curves and such. Has this been done before?
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby gaminwench » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:28 am

Does it matter?

I have seen this on the playa (*I think I recall, honestly, it's a punctuated blur*) at least twice.

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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby sparr » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:12 pm

gaminwench wrote:Does it matter?
A bit, in either direction.

If it hasn't been done before, I'm more motivated to do it. That's a personal quirk; I like working on novel projects.

If it has been done before, then I'm less worried about people complaining about the idea. This forum has taught me that a lot of people take strong exception to some sorts of projects that might be dangerous, so sticking to ideas that have already been done helps me ignore those people.
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Captain Goddammit » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:25 pm

Flight To Mars... ironically
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby trilobyte » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:13 pm

I'm giving this a nudge to the Building Art Installations section, since that's a better fit for discussions about building art installations/attractions.

There have been a few different track-related builds (and at least a couple that had a course that went full circle), but the U-shaped thing you're describing sounds like the old Roaster Coaster (it was painted black, by mid-day that thing was insufferable). It came from someplace in the midwest, if I remember correctly.

But +100 to what gaminwench said. It really doesn't matter whether something has been done before - each project winds up having its own unique vision, and even if you were making the exact same thing it would likely come out plenty different than what used to come to the playa 10 years ago. Even if they were planning a sudden and triumphant return to the playa, it's a big enough city for multiple coaster projects to be hugely successful and popular. Good luck!

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Postby Agaton » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:15 pm

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Postby trilobyte » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:14 pm

I found a clip of the old roaster coaster.... Great stuff.

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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Captain Goddammit » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:54 pm

Oh yeah that's right... Flight to Mars WAS a coaster in Seattle but the guys who did Flight To Mars camp at Burning Man weren't the ones who brought the coaster... If I remember right...
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby vargaso » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:35 pm

A high school friend of mine camped with the group that built the U-shaped rollercoaster, Speedcult. Here's a snapshot of their site from good ol' Wayback Machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20081204135 ... oaster.php

And here are more pics of it:

http://www.slappy.net/bm/2004/coaster/index.html

She said it was a blast to help run, and a giant pain in the ass to build and tear down.

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Postby tamarakay » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:17 pm

After watching that, the Stallion says "they are right, it was better then."
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Molotov » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:33 am

Interesting enough that the State of Nevada is one of the six that have no amusement ride safety regulations. So press on with your concept.

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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Captain Goddammit » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:16 am

Holy crap, and I rode the coaster around the New York New York in Vegas about three times... never again!
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby torrey.smith » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:50 am

Here is a project I call "Eggroll" that I'm working on as a way to challenge my non-spherical geodesic joinery I'm working on.

This was planned for 2015 but I asked to pause it while I build a custom 5-axis CNC router to be able to make the dovetail joinery :mrgreen:

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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Jackass » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:53 am

Whatever happened to the OP? Dude starts threads then just steps back to spectate...
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Postby lucky420 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:56 pm

Jackass wrote:Whatever happened to the OP? Dude starts threads then just steps back to spectate...



yeah...
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Bless » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:39 pm

lucky420 wrote:
Jackass wrote:Whatever happened to the OP? Dude starts threads then just steps back to spectate...



yeah...


He's plotting his next move... considering his options.
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby sparr » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:44 pm

Jackass wrote:Whatever happened to the OP? Dude starts threads then just steps back to spectate...
I get shit on for responding to my threads too often, and for not responding often enough. Guess you just can't win around here.
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby lucky420 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:49 pm

sparr wrote:
Jackass wrote:Whatever happened to the OP? Dude starts threads then just steps back to spectate...
I get shit on for responding to my threads too often, and for not responding often enough. Guess you just can't win around here.


Yes that can happen. :lol:
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby ranger magnum » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:44 pm

Naw, this place is like the Special Olympics. Everyone is a winner.
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby Dr. Pyro » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:51 am

ranger magnum wrote:Naw, this place is like the Special Olympics. Everyone is a retard.

There, fixed it for you.

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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby some seeing eye » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:29 am

I stood by the Speedcult roller coaster. It made a lot of noise as if it was shaking apart. I did not ride.

Many amusement rides that could be transported to BM are designed to be nomadic. They are shuttled from fair and festival to another and reassembled. They sit on boards and cement blocks to level and support. A larger, fixed installation can have a proper foundation.

They are supposed to be engineered to ensure that (with a safety margin) everything stays attached, nothing bends and nothing breaks or becomes undone. But the temporary foundation is never engineered. The operators cannot be altered. Personally I would not trust my life on the playa to a kinetic amusement ride that required engineering or good maintenance to operate.

If I were the BM department of mutated amusement rides, I would inspect them more thoroughly than the BM department of hope tall structures don't blow over and BM department fire effects, fuel storage and keeping BRC from burning to the ground do for their respective areas.
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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby torrey.smith » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:20 pm

some seeing eye wrote:I stood by the Speedcult roller coaster. It made a lot of noise as if it was shaking apart. I did not ride.

Many amusement rides that could be transported to BM are designed to be nomadic. They are shuttled from fair and festival to another and reassembled. They sit on boards and cement blocks to level and support. A larger, fixed installation can have a proper foundation.

They are supposed to be engineered to ensure that (with a safety margin) everything stays attached, nothing bends and nothing breaks or becomes undone. But the temporary foundation is never engineered. The operators cannot be altered. Personally I would not trust my life on the playa to a kinetic amusement ride that required engineering or good maintenance to operate.

If I were the BM department of mutated amusement rides, I would inspect them more thoroughly than the BM department of hope tall structures don't blow over and BM department fire effects, fuel storage and keeping BRC from burning to the ground do for their respective areas.


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Re: Roller coasters in the past?

Postby some seeing eye » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:17 pm

torrey.smith wrote:
some seeing eye wrote:
For the record, we take our structures seriously at Sextant.



I personally admire greatly and laud Sextant work, experimental values, participation in ePlaya, and engineering work, as a model for burners. And I am not qualified in any way to engineer your adventures!

And long time, I have been fascinated by non-spherical geodesic engineering.

Maybe there is some kind of TED-PlayaTalk, participation in online forums, Spark, or Artery-connected mailing lists for responsible engineering of BRC projects?

I just believe the laws of physics and science apply on the playa!

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