How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby DanusLight » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:11 am

So, I picked this topic to read because I was hoping to glean some insight into exactly how far one can push the licensing rules. Instead, I get a bunch of crap about a hypothetical design that may not come to fruition. :?
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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby Elliot » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:16 pm

You found crap, which you did not seek. Why did you pick it up?
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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby Jackass » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:20 pm

Welcome to one of many threads authored by Sparr. They all have this "stick your face in the metal fan" and "another round of Drano please barkeep" kinda feel to them.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby Elliot » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:56 pm

(I've noticed Sparr in other places on the interweb as well.)
(And I'm aware I have a similar tendency myself.)

I’ve been biting my tongue bloody since this topic was launched. But since it was now flung back in the air….

Flywheels, springs, and capacitors have been discussed in Kinetic Sculpture Racing; a human-powered hobby/sport/art-form/behavioral-disorder unrelated to Burning Man. (Though there is considerable crossover.)

As I recall, there was consensus that amateur-built springs and flywheels are too dangerous. There is too great a risk that accumulated energy will be inadvertently released in a harmful direction.

Capacitors have actually been used in a race, in Corvallis, Oregon, some years ago. The vehicle performed poorly.

There seems to also be consensus that electric transmission of mechanical force involves considerable energy loss in the conversion from mechanical to electric, and again when converting back to mechanical.
In diesel-electric railroad locomotives and similarly large machinery, the losses are apparently outweighed by benefits specific to those applications.
Human-powered vehicles can ill afford such losses.

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby sparr » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:33 pm

DanusLight wrote:So, I picked this topic to read because I was hoping to glean some insight into exactly how far one can push the licensing rules. Instead
... you got exactly that, in BRCDMV's responses.
If you want to make a reply about my personality instead of about what this thread is about, don't clutter this thread, post over here instead.

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby sparr » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:52 pm

Jackass wrote:Welcome to one of many threads authored by Sparr.
You just made me notice that a mod/admin removed the link from my signature :/
If you want to make a reply about my personality instead of about what this thread is about, don't clutter this thread, post over here instead.

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby Bless » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:55 pm

Jackass wrote:Welcome to one of many threads authored by Sparr. They all have this "stick your face in the metal fan" and "another round of Drano please barkeep" kinda feel to them.


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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby ThomasServeux » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:12 pm

why did I come back?
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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby ygmir » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:04 am

ThomasServeux wrote:why did I come back?

because he was facing away from you?
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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby GreyCoyote » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:39 am

sparr wrote:You just made me notice that a mod/admin removed the link from my signature :/


Yeah. It's just so tragic when they have to do that.

How do you feel about this?
Are you aware of the statistical likelyhood of this happening?
Would you like to debate their authority in this matter?
Have you reached a conclusion about their actions?
Have you considered publishing a website decrying their actions?
What recourse to this shameful intrusion on your intellectual superiority would be appropriate?

Answer all, please. Statistics, naturally, shall be needed to support your whining.
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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby ThomasServeux » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:08 pm

ygmir wrote:
ThomasServeux wrote:why did I come back?

because he was facing away from you?

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby Jovankat » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:19 am

sparr wrote:
Jackass wrote:Welcome to one of many threads authored by Sparr.
You just made me notice that a mod/admin removed the link from my signature :/

Do you mean this?

If you want to make a reply about my personality instead of about what this thread is about, don't clutter this thread, post over here instead.


Cause it still seems to be there...

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby sparr » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:21 pm

Jovankat wrote:Cause it still seems to be there...
They hid the thread I made for absorbing the off topic comments and removed the link from my signature a couple of months later. The new link goes to my introduction thread.
If you want to make a reply about my personality instead of about what this thread is about, don't clutter this thread, post over here instead.

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Re: How direct does human power need to be to be exempt from DMV?

Postby sparr » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:11 pm

BRCDMV wrote:Nevada law exempts a few types of vehicles from this category and those are the ones we do not have to license:

These include Electric Bicycles, motorized skateboards and Electric Personal Assistive Mobility devices (Segways fall into this category). Each of these has a very specific definition in the Nevada Statutes and that's what we go by.

I wanted to say thanks again for this. The definitions for these have given me a lot of ideas, many of which wouldn't be specific to a particular year's theme.
If you want to make a reply about my personality instead of about what this thread is about, don't clutter this thread, post over here instead.


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